B. Cox Has Answers to the Fermi Paradox

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Golems Dumb <----> AI smart

Go to 17:40 in vid to see Brian Cox { theoretical physicists } answers to the Fermi Paradox, where is the other intelligent life and why advance General Adaptive AI might eschew idea of communicating with biological life forms

Will bilateral GAAI eschew there creatin by bilateral humans and instead  go for more for box jellies that have 24 eyes, with various functions for differrent sets of eyes?

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They couldn’t find any intelligent beings on earth.

"We observe that no intelligent beings from outer space are now present on Earth," Hart wrote in the paper's abstract. "It is suggested that this fact can best be explained by the hypothesis that there are no other advanced civilizations in our galaxy." 
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Primarily dumb { narrow minded } and immoral. 2ndarily who knows what potential good fruits might come into fruition 

Rainbow of colors is more wholistic ergo more synergetically intelligent as well as a move toward an ...all-for-one and one-for-all... spiritually based globally unifying principle. An as analogy to Start Treks ' Prime Directive ' on Earth.

Humans already know that a more regulated auto traffic system would prevent nasty crashes and that was long before AI came along.

AI may offer more options of solutions for humans to choose from. 

Immoral and profit only motivated Corp. + General Adaptive AI may offer options that show, that, erratic climate change will lead to greater potentials of massive barbarism, ergo, less profit for the Corp.  in long run, if humanity dies off from Earth.

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They couldn’t find any intelligent beings on earth.

"We observe that no intelligent beings from outer space are now present on Earth," Hart wrote in the paper's abstract. "It is suggested that this fact can best be explained by the hypothesis that there are no other advanced civilizations in our galaxy."

Intelligent aliens might simply have decided to never visit us, or did so long ago without leaving any trace.

Alternatively, it might be that life is simply so rare that the chances of two intelligent species being positioned relatively near each other in the vastness of space is exceedingly slim.


A more somber suggestion is that we are alone in the universe. Life, like that found on Earth, is simply so vanishingly unlikely to arise, that ours was the only world where this happened.


Most scientists think this is unlikely. But there is the possibility that some sort of event, known as a Great Filter, might prevent civilizations like our own from progressing far enough to make contact elsewhere.


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Bot AI is like a virtually annoying knat hovering around our eyes.  
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=knat+flies

General Adaptive AI { GAAI aka AGI } is likened to the ' Borg ' of Star Trek at its worse, tho my guess is perhaps less ominous than the Star Trek version, depending on whether humans are not paying attention to the GA AI, or because dumb and worse barbaric.

Ergo,  the circumstance of my AI can kick your AI's ass punk, so you just have to ask yourself one question.......?.......







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How AI is helping the search for extraterrestrial life

All this could change, though, thanks to new research from the Carnegie Institution for Science, which is using AI to analyse rock samples for signs of present or past life. 
The team found that the AI is able to distinguish former living and non-living material, with an accuracy of almost 90%.

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How AI is helping the search for extraterrestrial life

All this could change, though, thanks to new research from the Carnegie Institution for Science, which is using AI to analyse rock samples for signs of present or past life. 
The team found that the AI is able to distinguish former living and non-living material, with an accuracy of almost 90%.
Chimpanzees are the closest we have to compare with human intelligence.

Is there anything smarter than humans?
Chimpanzees have been subjected to countless hours of research with the goal of better understanding their cognition. The result is that we can confidently say that chimps are one of the most intelligent species on earth. Humans share 99 percent of our DNA with chimps, so this should come as no surprise.

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I always use www.percentagescalculator.co.uk/ for any percentages instead of trying to work it out but recently found myself using AI to work out percentages.

What does that tell you? 
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I always use www.percentagescalculator.co.uk/ for any percentages instead of trying to work it out but recently found myself using AI to work out percentages.

What does that tell you? 
Your dependence on AI is disproportionate.

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I think being in a simulation may best explain the Fermi paradox, it would just take too much ram to simulate all those life forms, but the filter theory of civilization dying due to some technological progress, seems promising as well
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I think being in a simulation may best explain the Fermi paradox, it would just take too much ram to simulate all those life forms, but the filter theory of civilization dying due to some technological progress, seems promising as well
The Fermi Paradox is not a simulation, it is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of its existence

Read the post again.
The Fermi paradox is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of its existence.
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The so-called Fermi paradox claims that if technological life existed anywhere else, we would see evidence of its visits to Earth-and since we do not, such life does not exist, or some special explanation is needed. Enrico Fermi, however, never published anything on this topic. On the one occasion he is known to have mentioned it, he asked 'where is everybody?'- apparently suggesting that we don't see extraterrestrials on Earth because interstellar travel may not be feasible, but not suggesting that intelligent extraterrestrial life does not exist, or suggesting its absence is paradoxical.
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On the one occasion he is known to have mentioned it, he asked 'where is everybody?'- apparently suggesting that we don't see extraterrestrials on Earth because interstellar travel may not be feasible, but not suggesting that intelligent extraterrestrial life does not exist, or suggesting its absence is paradoxical.
Originally, the question was meant to attack the idea of interstellar travel, the possibility of which Fermi wasn’t confident in. But the question remains: if there were civilizations scattered across the stars by the billions, why haven’t we heard from them? It is from these questions, the Drake equation, and the Kardashev scale that the true paradox was born. The Milky Way is about 10 billion years old and 100,000 light-years across. If aliens had spaceships that could travel at 1 percent of the speed of light, the galaxy could have already been colonized 1,000 times. Why haven’t we heard from any other life?

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No necessary reason why life elsewhere should be any more or less technologically advanced than life on Earth.

And Fermi paradox is a bit of banter that doesn't achieve very much.

In another galaxy they perhaps whistle and gurgle a lot, whilst pursuing their rocket programmes.

Nonetheless, hampered by petty religious and nationalistic feuding.

And something akin to Brian Cox probably whispers sweet nothings to an adoring audience.
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The so-called Fermi paradox claims that if technological life existed anywhere else, we would see evidence of its visits to Earth-and since we do not, such life does not exist,
Not really. A group of high profile scientists did some napkin math to show the likelihood of advanced life existing in the universe other than humans and how common it should be. The math was considered paradoxical because it showed we should have been contacted already. However it seems we have not been contacted, which is where the paradoxical part comes in.

The answers suggested for this are many but here are the most common, from.memory.

1. The math is wrong and advanced life is much more rare than the napkin math showed.

2. When life reaches an advanced enough stage to reach out, it meets some sort of self induced apocalypse.  For example nuclear war.

3. There is a hostile race of beings that co sider any society who reaches the ability to contact other civilizations a threat and destroys any society that gets to that level or comes close to that level. 

4. We are in a type of universal zoo and some galactic empire has ordered no contact with us
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4. We are in a type of universal zoo and some galactic empire has ordered no contact with us

I can hear the intelligent extra-terrestrials singing...... ' Zoo ' fly, dont both me, ' Zoo ' fly, dont bother me.....skip-toodle-loo my darling....

Or as Zed says, maybe just whistling a tune of such.    Rare Earth was Motowns only successful all white band contract.


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We are in a type of universal zoo and some galactic empire has ordered no contact with us
We can’t even find intelligent life on planet earth. Scientist are baffled by their own disbelief.