What if colleges accepted 100% of applicants?

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Imagine a bookstore that only accepted 5% of customers. If you want to buy a book, you need to fill out an application showing how well-read you are and how likely you are to use the knowledge from the book to advance your career. Every bookstore implements this system, and they become more popular the more people they turn away. Furthermore, bookstores have no reason to build additional locations even when they are filled to capacity, because they only want the most intelligent, well-read people to buy from them. No top-tier bookstore can deviate from this system, because it would cause their rankings (which are inverse to acceptance rates) to plummet. Many bookstores reinvent the wheel, investing in effectively equivalent resources and then limiting access so that no one but a small few can pay to access it.

This is bad for the bookstore, because they don't make a lot of money and have to charge more to each customer. This is bad for customers, because most of them don't get the chance to read, and when they do, the price is extremely high. In this case, much of the curriculum is an artificially scarce resource, because it could hypothetically be offered to everyone online without raising expenses significantly. Yet all the best authors and best publishers work for bookstores with the lowest acceptance rates, since those have the most money. Only the bookstores with low acceptance rates have money, because they have the best authors and publishers.

This is how college works in the United States. While not everyone can have the prestige that currently comes with attending a top-tier university, it's hypothetically possible for everyone to receive a Harvard-quality education via the internet. So what if every university were forced, by law, to offer certifications (online or in-person) to everyone who applied? (Not for free, of course.) Not everyone must attend in-person classes, but all lectures must be recorded, and everyone must be allowed to get some form of degree. And if a government decree is too much, then universities that don't comply receive a harsh tax penalty.

If universities are given some time to comply, with increasing tax incentives by year, what would happen? With many times more customers and relatively stable expenses, I expect prices would become very low at top universities. Colleges would need to be ranked somehow, but with acceptance rates out the window, this would have to be based on how much students improve over the course of their studies at the university. Students would need to be ranked too, but with everyone allowed to attend any university they want, this would need to be based on performance, or some third-party offering standardized exams.

The point is this: everyone can have access to the top professors and best lectures in the country for much cheaper. The best colleges can collect money from more people and invest in more resources. Instead of 1,000 different colleges giving the same lecture, we'd have about a dozen giving different lectures at a much lower price for each student. And as for ranking colleges and students? The market will find a way as it usually does.

If this is the most efficient way, why hasn't the market forced the top colleges to do this? Prestige, ill-executed non-profit ventures, and so-far ineffective government intervention. Get rid of the obsession with status, and we'll have a more educated populace.
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If this is the most efficient way, why hasn't the market forced the top colleges to do this? Prestige, ill-executed non-profit ventures, and so-far ineffective government intervention. Get rid of the obsession with status, and we'll have a more educated populace.
One of the key promises President-elect Donald Trump made while campaigning for the White House was to abolish the US Department of Education.
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Princeton University, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University took the No. 1, No. 2 and No. 3 slots respectively in U.S. News & World Report’s rankings of best colleges. 
The 2025 rankings mark the second year in a row that those three institutions landed in the top three spots, in the same order. Stanford tied for third place last year, but this year dropped to fourth.
Topping U.S. liberal arts institutions for 2025 were, in order, Williams College and Amherst College, both in Massachusetts, and Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania.
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Edit: I wrote this before I let what you wrote settle. It seems we mostly agree but it might be worth reading anyway


There is push back against something like this because it ruins the prestige of the degree and for good reason. 

At one point companies could IQ test employees to see who had the intellectual capacity for higher roles without the trouble of having to attend college, but those work places were sued because the courts ruled it was discrimination. The ruling was Grey enough where you could still do it, but businesses are risk averse. 

This was at the timewhere if you hired a college graduate you knew he probably had an IQ of 140+ and was extremely capable. Soon there was a fight to get military into college so it could be available for more people. It was right after the Supreme Court ruling against IQ testing employees. 

So the success of this movement lowered the average IQ to probably about 120. So businesses by requiring a college degree could at least prevent themselves from hiring somebody too dumb. However they could take the average IQ of management and raise it by filtering for the most prestigious colleges. 

After this though. Things started getting real bad. We are talking Pell grants, we are talking colleges accepting students for just writing "black lives matter" over and over on college essays and getting in. 


So now college isn't even a good estimate unless you focus on stem, but those people are going into stem related fields. So we have a system where literally anyone can get a college degree so it's only a filter to really rule out some people who maybe lack discipline.

It's why when I see a psychologist I only make appointments with therapists who have a PHD. Because it is possible with an IQ of just 100 to graduate with a bacchelors in psychology. 


It's pointless. I propose a system where we erase the need for college and just use certs. Like with accounting you get the most basic xert if you want to prepare taxes. If you want to work for a fortune 500 company navigating all their bullshit then maybe you get 10 certs and become a higher level CPA . While this doesn't filter for IQ, it does filter for knowledge level which is more important for roles like that. 

Iq only matters for positions of strategic influence such as upper level management. By moving to a cert system perhaps we can discourage idiots from going to college and it can be a good filter again for talent, but that is if we get institutions who also raise their standards and get rid of things like Pell Grants which are largely used to defraud the government by fake colleges like Devry University anyway
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I dont have much hope in American education system. Maybe 1% to 2% of Americans are actually smart. The rest are bots.

If over a decade of school didnt teach them anything, I doubt few more years will.
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I dont have much hope in American education system. Maybe 1% to 2% of Americans are actually smart. The rest are bots.

If over a decade of school didnt teach them anything, I doubt few more years will.

According to a Business Insider report in 2018, the U.S. ranked 38th in math scores and 24th in science.
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Colleges and bookstores have a 'limit to how many people they can service, I imagine.

I also would think a 'single teacher, ought have the right to refuse service to anyone they want, and to prioritize who they want.
'But,
I don't think government should subsidize such teachers or colleges.
I do agree with you, that government should encourage making education and certification cheaper and more available, so long as quality of education and proof of competency is not diminished.


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a 'single teacher, ought have the right to refuse service to anyone they want
It's not the teachers deciding who gets accepted, it's the college. Also, plenty of teachers post their lectures online but only the university can offer certifications.
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Colleges and bookstores have a 'limit to how many people they can service, I imagine.

I also would think a 'single teacher, ought have the right to refuse service to anyone they want, and to prioritize who they want.
'But,
I don't think government should subsidize such teachers or colleges.
I do agree with you, that government should encourage making education and certification cheaper and more available, so long as quality of education and proof of competency is not diminished.
Education in America is deteriorating. According to a Business Insider report in 2018, the U.S. ranked 38th in math scores and 24th in science.
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The problem of accepting everyone 100% is that it will faster show college as a scam where they take your money knowing full well there is near zero chance of you learning the material. 

this is what AI thinks:

Imagine a gym that sells memberships to everyone including people with eating disorders, promising they'll achieve fitness goals but without ensuring the members have the physical and mental ability to exercise. When most fail to see results, the gym looks like it's profiting off false promises.

Similarly, consider a flight school that admits students with poor vision or crippling anxiety, assuring them they can become pilots despite obvious challenges. When these students fail in simulations or cannot qualify for real-world flying, it becomes evident the school prioritized money over outcomes.

Another analogy would be credit card companies approving all 18 year olds with no jobs or income, promising access to financial independence. When these individuals inevitably rack up debt they cannot pay, it exposes the lenders' true motives of profiting from late fees and interest rather than promoting financial literacy.

Similarly, imagine if the Olympic Games, after charging a ridiculous entry fee, decided to accept all athletes, regardless of skill or training, in the name of inclusivity. The resulting spectacle of untrained participants failing would diminish the prestige of the competition and make it appear unserious.

In all these cases, most of them which actually exist, over-promising success while ignoring necessary prerequisites undermines credibility and exposes the institutions as exploitative. 

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In all these cases, most of them which actually exist, over-promising success while ignoring necessary prerequisites undermines credibility and exposes the institutions as exploitative. 
Acceptance should be based on a merit system and that is how the system has been working.
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In that case, I'd hope it would expose the bad colleges while showing the merit of the good ones. With acceptance rates out the window, the burden falls on colleges themselves to generate good results.
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In that case, I'd hope it would expose the bad colleges while showing the merit of the good ones. With acceptance rates out the window, the burden falls on colleges themselves to generate good results.
That is why the top are rated on performance.

Here’s a list of factors to consider while selecting the right college.
Good ROI
High graduation rate
Low student-faculty ratio
Adequate financial aid
Excellent research, internship, and travel opportunities
Well-planned curriculum
Interesting club activities and other extracurriculars
Deep concern for student health and wellness
Well-run campus/city safety systems
Helpful academic support services
Useful career services
Modern building infrastructure
Well-equipped labs / computing infrastructure
Dependable alumni network