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So the election is over and Trump has won the election as the 47th president of the United States where he won all 7 battleground states and outperformed a bunch of metrics. I can safely say this is a landslide election. Blue states such as California shifted in -5% losses for Kamala from 2020, while also states such as NJ, IL have shifted 9% since 2020, along with 2016. So what do I think and what's the future for 2028?

Republicans
Republicans this around did an excellent job and getting people to utilize the mail in ballots and early voting, something lacking in the 2020 election. This played key as it allowed a gain of Trump votes and was key to them winning. The biggest takeaway of this election is that Trump's tough immigration policy is working well with Latinos and that seems to be there top priority. Primarily blue counties in Texas and Florida flipped red for the first time since 1892. We also see Latino's turned out in a 13% surge. We also see new voters to the election turned out in a majority for Trump. Not much I can say at this point

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Democrats are potentially fucked. I say this cautiously but from what I have seen tonight, Dems are really in a bad position for 2028. 

Let's start with this. They were doomed to win this election when they didn't get to vote for their candidate in the primary. Swing states are essential when it comes to having to choose your candidate in the election, and they didn't do that. This was a huge mistake on Biden and on the Dems. Kamala did not differentiate herself from Biden enough to resonate with the working class. even saying that "it will be just like Biden." Not only does that piss off your progressive base, but it also pisses off the undecided voters who were not happy with the current SOTU. 

So What Now?
2028 is going to be...well something. There is no real telling of the future but if I had to bet on the GOP nominee for 2028, it would likely be Vance. But as for the Dems it's hard to say. If you alienate your moderates with a progressive candidate, you lose that vote to Vance. If you go moderate yet again, you lose the progressive vote, yet again. The party is split. Kamala may fair better in primaries, hell maybe Walz throws his money in there, but Vance is a better and more articulate version of Trump and they got rinsed in the election where Trump did poor in the debate. Vance lapped Walz and would lap him again and Kamala if they ran again. I don't know what moderate could do it. If you go into the moderate route you end up alienating your entire young voters who already shifting Republican. You go progressive and you alienate moderate and undecided voters that are not ready for those changes. Overall lose lose situation
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Yep it's over.

Time to start saving up for the next presidential election circus.

And carry on as usual in the interim.

Let's hope that next time, there are two candidates who can actually string a coherent sentence together.

But don't count your chickens.

Have fun.
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Also, for those wondering, I cast my vote for Trump. I definitely was less excited to do so as I would've been in 2016/2020 if I could. The Jan 6th stuff still leaves a sour taste in my mouth, but I am not voting for a candidate that runs a campaign on calling working class citizens looking for a better future trash, calling the white man trash, and a lack of change from the status quo. Thinking logically > thinking emotionally
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For me, that wasn't just a one-off gaffe. The institutionalists (Dems and Neocons) firmly believe they know better than the people who voted what the country needs.

What's the point of Democracy when the people are not trusted to direct the country? We should just end the charade of democracy when we reach that point of the acceptance of a patronizing government and embrace the Oligarchy of elites at that point.
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They were doomed to win this election when they didn't get to vote for their candidate in the primary.
 It wouldn’t have made any difference. The problem the democrats faced in this election is that they were running against a fantasy. People remember 2017-2019 being great years, and memory holed 2020. From there, nothing Trump did mattered. No matter how clearly he showed us how ignorant and unprepared he was, no matter how obvious his cognitive decline, no matter how anti constitution he showed himself to be, no matter how self centered and narcissistic he demonstrated himself to be, no matter how unserious everyone knew he was… he was president before and things were good, therefore things will be good again.

Meanwhile every time Kamala opened her mouth she had to show us that she was exceptionally intelligent, understood everything she was talking about, had all the answers, and had to make us feel like she could accomplish anything. The double standards were unlike anything I’ve ever seen.

Even Trump supporters admit that they don’t know what he’s going to do, that’s what people voted for. This is a pass we give to Trump and no one else. The Democrats didn’t stand a chance.
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I've just seen the election map by counties and there's no doubt that Harris was a terrible, terrible candidate as Trump said.


Harris at the end of her campaign was promising things that Trump also promised, so at that point you could tell that she was desperate to gain votes.

It's good to see that americans voted Trump because Harris as president could have been a disaster. 
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Harris underperformed in 100% of all counties compared to Biden in 2020.

The DNC made a calculated risk that preserving the donations from the donor class plus running on DEI vibes was a stronger position than having a snap election at the convention and selecting (D) strongman Gavin Newsom, who would have easily outperformed Kamala. With or without the billions of dollars spent on cringe propaganda.
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Why do you tag Double_R? Do you think he will concede about it? Haha. 
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because in his deepest heart, he knows a (D) strongman would have won, but the DNC was too chickenshit to make the call.
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It wouldn’t have made any difference. The problem the democrats faced in this election is that they were running against a fantasy. People remember 2017-2019 being great years, and memory holed 2020. From there, nothing Trump did mattered. No matter how clearly he showed us how ignorant and unprepared he was, no matter how obvious his cognitive decline, no matter how anti constitution he showed himself to be, no matter how self centered and narcissistic he demonstrated himself to be, no matter how unserious everyone knew he was… he was president before and things were good, therefore things will be good again.

Meanwhile every time Kamala opened her mouth she had to show us that she was exceptionally intelligent, understood everything she was talking about, had all the answers, and had to make us feel like she could accomplish anything. The double standards were unlike anything I’ve ever seen.

Even Trump supporters admit that they don’t know what he’s going to do, that’s what people voted for. This is a pass we give to Trump and no one else. The Democrats didn’t stand a chance.
You seriously have some soul searching to do
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I think the Dems are too divided as a whole to unite under one cause. The reason they won 2020 was because they united under COVID to fear monger liberals. They couldn't do the same thing this time around
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 It wouldn’t have made any difference. The problem the democrats faced in this election is that they were running against a fantasy. People remember 2017-2019 being great years, and memory holed 2020. From there, nothing Trump did mattered. No matter how clearly he showed us how ignorant and unprepared he was, no matter how obvious his cognitive decline, no matter how anti constitution he showed himself to be, no matter how self centered and narcissistic he demonstrated himself to be, no matter how unserious everyone knew he was… he was president before and things were good, therefore things will be good again.
I do agree that Trump is not the speaker he once was, but his policy he had and implemented was better than anything Harris did. 
Latinos biggest concern was the immigration crisis and Kamala calling herself the "border czar" did nothing to help with the crisis and made it worst. Latinos saw it firsthand and voted for Trump

Muslims didn't come out and vote for any candidate because the Democratic party is still funded by wealthy Zionists that will stop all funding if they decide to Free Palestine, hence why they did not vote at all.
Meanwhile every time Kamala opened her mouth she had to show us that she was exceptionally intelligent, understood everything she was talking about, had all the answers, and had to make us feel like she could accomplish anything. The double standards were unlike anything I’ve ever seen.
No she did not. Her campaigned focused on falsely fear mongering to multiple people to try and do the same thing the Dems won in 2020 on. Expect this time the status quo is still terrible under Biden and are sick of the status quo and Kamala stated she had no plans to do it. She alienated the working class to instead pander to the Hollywood elite.
Even Trump supporters admit that they don’t know what he’s going to do, that’s what people voted for. This is a pass we give to Trump and no one else. The Democrats didn’t stand a chance.
This is 100% a lie. Most of every news station said this is a different Trump presidency because this Trump has an agenda, has an idea, and has Washington experience

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You seriously have some soul searching to do
Oh he searched his soul and he has decided everybody else's soul is the problem. I can relate.

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This is a pass we give to Trump and no one else.
"Trump is a witch who uses dark magic"

Hey it's fine with me if you and the rest just keep that hypothesis until 2028. One free win.