4 year-old boy has a right to change his gender if he wants

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Everyone should have freedom and passion.

Do you agree?

Then you agree that 4 year old boy has a right to change his gender.

I guess this topic is a truism anyway, because if person wants something, its logical to try to get it, and trans rights are most important thing in the world.

I dont think there is anything to disagree with here, or argue with.

Basically, you either concede that trans rights are most important, either you are wrong.
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Everyone shouldn’t have freedom and passion.
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Everyone shouldn’t have freedom and passion
Who shouldnt have freedom and passion?

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Who shouldnt have freedom and passion?
Murders, rapists, etc
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Murders, rapists, etc
4 year old boy isnt a murderer and he isnt a rapist.

So 4 year old boy should have freedom and passion.

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So you agree that everyone shouldn’t have freedom and passion. Glad we’re in agreement 
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We being in some agreement doesnt change that 4 year old boy should have freedom and passion. 4 year old boy should be allowed to completely transition if he wants.

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We being in some agreement doesnt change that 4 year old boy should have freedom and passion. 4 year old boy should be allowed to completely transition if he wants.
I disagree that 4 year old boys who are criminals should have freedom and passion
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either you are wrong
What's wrong with being wrong?
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I disagree that 4 year old boys who are criminals should have freedom and passion
So if a 4 year old boy is not a criminal, he should have freedom and passion. Since 4 year old boy is never a criminal, he should have freedom and passion. He should be allowed to get surgery to become a girl if he wants. But even if he was a criminal, he should still have freedom and passion to transition to a girl. Everyone should support it. 4 year old  being a criminal doesnt change that he has freedom and passion to transition to a girl.
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What's wrong with being wrong?
Right and wrong are subjective, just as logic is subjective. But I dont know whats wrong with being wrong. I am simply never wrong so I dont know how it feels like.

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This is where the fun begins:

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What's wrong with being wrong?
Right and wrong are subjective, just as logic is subjective. But I dont know whats wrong with being wrong. I am simply never wrong so I dont know how it feels like.
Excuse my going to save that so everybody knows why I can't be asked.

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How's a 4 year old boy going to do that without adult intervention?
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He wont
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Munchausen by Proxy = child abuse 
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Sorry, I dont speak Japanese.
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And everyone else has a right to reject his delusions.
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You think its delusion, but thats only because you think people dont own their bodies.
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@Best.Korea
Let us break down your statement thus:

A... "Everyone should have freedom" 
          Disproved in comment #4.

B..."Everyone should have  passion"
       Disproved in comment #4.

C..." a 4 year old boy has a right to change his gender." 
         While a 4 year old child has some limited rights, the  parents extend a "legal umbrella" over that child.  Changing gender attributes involves medical and surgical             procedures and costs about which a child  has virtually no  legal authority.  

D.."this topic is a truism"
       Obviously it is not. 

E.."if person wants something, its logical to try to get it"
       The jails are full of people who thought this to be true.   

F.."trans rights are most important thing in the world."
      Trans rights aren't even in the top 100 most important things in the world.

G.."I dont think there is anything to disagree with here, or argue with."
      You may think that, but all these comments seem to prove your belief to be false. 

H.."you either concede that trans rights are most important, either you are wrong."
         You may think that, but all these comments seem to prove your belief to be false. 
 














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Disproved in comment #4.
No, it wasnt.

Disproved in comment #4.
No,  it wasnt.

 
While a 4 year old child has some limited rights
No, 4 year old child doesnt have limited rights. Its rights are same as for everyone else.

, the  parents extend a "legal umbrella" over that child.
No, they dont.

  Changing gender attributes involves medical and surgical             procedures and costs about which a child  has virtually no  legal authority.
Child has legal authority to be whatever it wants to be when it comes to transition. Parents have legal duty to provide for costs.

D.."this topic is a truism"
       Obviously it is not. 
Obviously, it is.

E.."if person wants something, its logical to try to get it"
       The jails are full of people who thought this to be true. 
That doesnt change the fact that it is true.

F.."trans rights are most important thing in the world."
      Trans rights aren't even in the top 100 most important things in the world.
Thats incorrect. Trans rights are most important thing in the world.

G.."I dont think there is anything to disagree with here, or argue with."
      You may think that, but all these comments seem to prove your belief to be false.
No, they all failed to disagree.

H.."you either concede that trans rights are most important, either you are wrong."
         You may think that, but all these comments seem to prove your belief to be false
Those comments only prove that those comments are wrong, thus I am right.
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@Best.Korea
I am going to use your "reasoning" against your position.

You are wrong on so many levels, thus proving that I and all the other comments that disagree with you are completely correct.
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I am going to use your "reasoning" against your position.
No, you wont. My reasoning is that my position is the only correct one, thus cannot be used against my position.

You are wrong on so many levels
Thats false.

, thus proving that I and all the other comments that disagree with you are completely correct.
Thats false. Thus, proving that I am right and you are wrong.
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You are a relativist, therefore the preponderance of others contrary to your belief proves that you alone are wrong. Some many others are right.
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You are a relativist, therefore the preponderance of others contrary to your belief proves that you alone are wrong.
I am not a relativist. The preponderance of others contrary to my belief doesnt prove that I am wrong. It proves that they are wrong. Thus, you are wrong.
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WOW! I'm off to see my doctor to get an anti-nonsense" shot.
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Run away, as usual. My arguments arent nonsense. What you say is nonsense, however.
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Now I need 2 shots!!!!

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If anyone wants to debate about anything, let me know.