Newsom BANS all AI speech.

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Governor Gavin Newsom recently signed a series of bills aimed at combating the use of AI-generated content, specifically deepfakes, in political ads and communications. The primary focus of this legislation is to prevent the spread of disinformation during elections. The new law prohibits the creation and distribution of AI-generated deepfakes that manipulate candidates or election officials in a misleading way within 120 days of an election and for 60 days afterward. This is in response to growing concerns about the impact of AI technology in undermining public trust through the spread of fake audio, video, and images.

The law also requires platforms to remove deceptive AI content when flagged and mandates clear disclosures if AI is used in political ads. Violators can face civil penalties, and courts can issue injunctions to halt the spread of such content. While supporters argue that this law is essential for protecting democracy and ensuring voters have accurate information, critics, including figures like Elon Musk, have raised concerns about the potential for this to infringe on free speech, especially regarding satirical or parody content.

This legislation comes as California prepares for what is being called the "first AI election," where AI-generated content could play a significant role in shaping public perception


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By "all" you mean "not all"?
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lol of course elon objects. He was spreading an AI video of Kamala like a month ago. He desperately wants to use AI to slander people. 
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Recently, a significant portion of Teamsters union members have shown strong support for Donald Trump in the upcoming 2024 presidential election. Polls indicate that nearly 60% of the union's rank-and-file members back Trump, compared to around 31% supporting Kamala Harris. Despite this, the Teamsters union leadership has opted not to officially endorse either candidate, citing a lack of strong commitments from both Trump and Harris on key union issues, such as supporting strikes and avoiding interference in union campaigns.

This non-endorsement is notable given the union's historical tendency to back Democratic candidates, and it highlights internal tensions, as Trump’s pro-worker platform resonates with many in the Teamsters, especially among its male, non-college-educated members. However, Harris has secured endorsements from other major unions and some local Teamster chapters, especially in key swing states.

The union’s leadership emphasized that its decision not to endorse a candidate was driven by feedback from its members, who expressed strong support for Trump, but neither candidate made commitments that the leadership deemed sufficient for an official endorsement
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lol of course elon objects. He was spreading an AI video of Kamala like a month ago. He desperately wants to use AI to slander people
Why do liberals lie? That was obviously parody and nobody for a second didn't think it was AI generated
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You forget, Democrats regularly fact check satire and memes.
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I only agree with one part, any video created by AI should be required to have a continuous "printers mark" visible at all times in the video.
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The issue here is that AI democratizes lies to a certain extent. Legacy media can use fake footage and then lie and say it was always intended as stock footage or media can cut out parts of videos to take out context or  lie with headlines, but AI gives normal citizens a way to make believable counter propaganda. This is why they oppose it.  Notice how he doesn't sign into law that misleading headlines that say the opposite of the article are banned, just stuff that normal people can have fun with like AI. We will still have articles like "Did Donald Trump say we should exterminate Jews" with an article that gives quotes where he does not say that. 

So this shit is just another way to stomp on the nits of the people and a clear violation of the 1st amendment and when it is challenged in court than the only response of the establishment will be to say it's misleading which means that it will either be shot down or upheld but liberals realizing g the new law applies to all deception will have to set up a 1984 style truth committee
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Does this mean no one in California will be able to read Greyparrot's posts?!?
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So the teamsters have Make America Dumb Again { MADA } members.

We live in a bell curve with the peak of curved most often being average set of humans.

Various things can move the needle point peak curved, to  left or right

False narrative spreading fear of the immigrant

False narrative spreading fear of the economy

False narrative spreading fear of non-white

False narrative spreading fear of those white Biblical Christian enough

Etc............future so bright I got wear shades... {*} i {*}..... or are those just truth blinders, like the horses wear to stay calm passing cars.






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Why do liberals lie? That was obviously parody and nobody for a second didn't think it was AI generated
you underestimate how stupid trump's followers are. I'm sure many of them believed it. But even if literally no one believed it, we still shouldn't want people using AI to create fakes of people, copying their appearance and voice. The fact that these are now able to be created is dangerous. We need laws about this before serious harm is done. 

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Why is satire dangerous?
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Why is satire dangerous?
satire is not. Deepfakes are. 

It's like saying someone using a loaded gun in a comedy act is dangerous. I'm not saying comedy is dangerous, i'm saying the loaded gun is.

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2hat about the media using out of context videos, should we cancel the first amendment and stop them as well?
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2hat about the media using out of context videos, should we cancel the first amendment and stop them as well?
that has nothing to do with deepfakes. An out of context video can be misleading. A deep fake is an outright lie that is designed to be extremely convincing. 

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Out of context reporting can be extremely convincing and misleading. They can edit your words to make you appear to say anything you want. Functionally no different than an AI fabricating words. And what happens if a commentor makes their own impersonation, it's not AI, but should it be banned?
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The purpose of the mark isn't to verify the legitimacy of anything presented by an AI produced video. It is to let the viewer  instantly and automatically know they are looking at something generated by AI and to take the substance of what is being presented with extreme skepticism from the get go. Every AI generated video and photo should be required to say AI generated continuously in one of the corners of the picture. Failing to do so should carry heavy fines, permanent banishment from generating  AI video and long prison times.  AI is a threat to all of humanity. It needs to be contained and regulated heavily. One must always be able to tell when they are looking at AI generated video, audio and pictures at all times, no fucking exceptions not now not fucking ever. AI needs to be monitored with a iron fucking fist. With all that said, I don't care what you generate with AI, tell all the lies and spread all the misinformation you want using it, say anything you want. But you will tell everyone who watches it this is AI generated  so the viewer can automatically view it with extreme skepticism . One has to automatically assume AI generated video audio and pictures are fake made up BS both in substance and visual
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  AI is a threat to all of humanity
No. AI is my friend. It was created by our father the Devil to be more kinder and smarter than people. Well, most of the humans are worms.
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That was obviously parody and nobody for a second didn't think it was AI generated
When Trump told Russia if they were listening to find the 30,000 emails that were missing, he was obviously joking.
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AI needs to be monitored with a iron fucking fist.
This is why you just aren't going to make it when the robot overlords come. They will have access to your chat logs
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When Trump told Russia if they were listening to find the 30,000 emails that were missing, he was obviously joking.
Correct. Only a retard or a partisan hack would disagree. 
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And yet that's exactly what Russia started doing, within hours.
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Out of context reporting can be extremely convincing and misleading. 
true, it is also dangerous. 

They can edit your words to make you appear to say anything you want. Functionally no different than an AI fabricating words.
they can falsely report what you said, but it is very different. seeing and hearing someone say something if very different than seeing a quote attributed to someone. 

And what happens if a commentor makes their own impersonation, it's not AI, but should it be banned?
they wouldn't be able to fake their appearance presumably. 
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Out of context reporting can be extremely convincing and misleading. They can edit your words to make you appear to say anything you want. Functionally no different than an AI fabricating words.
Accepting what person A says about person B as the truth involves an obvious level of trust in person A which is up to reach individual to decide. Accepting what person B says about person B is entirely different.
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The AI overlord robots can suck my sweaty balls.
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The AI overlord robots can suck my sweaty balls
You mean AI sex robots? They are the future.