Trump has the BIGGLIEST crowd sizes.

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Trump has the biggest crowd sizes, its amazing, nobody ever saw such big crowd sizes, here are his top ten biggest crowd sizes of any president.

10 Former Republican presidents who refuse to endorse him, including former Republican vice presidents who endorsed his opponents.
9 Women he has sexually abused, 26 of many more have not been afraid to come forward.
8 Musicians that have demanded he stop using their songs
7 People who sued him for fraud and won.
6 Followers he led in an insurrection attempt
5 People from his administration who now say he is unfit to be president.
4 Republicans voting for a Democrat to be president.
3 Americans who died because of presidential incompetence, over a million people died because he horribly mismanaged the pandemic
2 People who saw him get his ass kicked in the debate, over 67 million people watched him squeal like a pig.

And Trump’s number one biggliest crowd size…

1. The 81 million Americans who fired him in 2020


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Americans who died because of presidential incompetence, over a million people died because he horribly mismanaged the pandemic

President Biden sure knows how to draw a crowd, and he’s breaking records in all the wrong places! Take COVID-19 deaths, for example—over 400,000 people passed away by the time Trump left office. But Biden’s really upped the ante, with over 600,000 additional deaths by the end of 2022, pushing the total over the million mark. Forget about rally sizes; Biden’s pulling in numbers no one else could match! Who needs campaign stops when you’re setting pandemic records?

And the inflation relief crowd? Oh, it’s even bigger. Back in 2020, inflation was sitting around 1.4%, but Biden’s policies have made sure that number skyrocketed, peaking at over 9% in 2022! Now, millions of Americans are asking for help, forming a line so long it makes Black Friday look like a slow day. From groceries to gas, Biden’s managed to bring together a nationwide crowd begging for relief like never before.

So, while other presidents may have drawn crowds for rallies or speeches, Biden’s hitting historic milestones in both COVID deaths and inflation complaints. With numbers like these, why bother with approval ratings? He’s clearly got the biggest crowds in town, even if it’s not exactly something to celebrate.

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over 400,000 people passed away by the time Trump left office. But Biden’s really upped the ante, with over 600,000 additional deaths by the end of 2022
So you say Trump had higher covid death rate. Why do you speak against Trump like that? Why?
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Biden’s policies have made sure that number skyrocketed
Not in USA, but in whole world. I wonder how did Biden manage to cause inflation in Germany?
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The USD is the global currency. It literally influences the currencies of every other country
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The USD is the global currency. It literally influences the currencies of every other country
Some more than others. That's why Asia saw around 3% inflation during the exact same period USA and EU were around 7-8%
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The USD is the global currency. It literally influences the currencies of every other country
Now go ahead and tell us how did Biden cause inflation in Germany. What did he do to cause inflation in almost whole world.

The only thing we know is that printing money causes inflation, and Trump happened to print over 3 trillion dollars in 2020.
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The U.S. dollar (USD) plays a huge role in the global economy because it is the world’s primary reserve currency. This means that many countries hold large amounts of U.S. dollars in their central banks; and global trade, especially in commodities like oil, is often conducted in dollars. When the U.S. experiences inflation, it sends ripple effects through economies around the world, especially those closely tied to the dollar like Germany. For example, as the U.S. printed more money or raised interest rates to manage its economy, the value of the dollar shifts, influencing other closely tied countries' currencies.

Asia, which saw much lower inflation—around 3%—compared to the U.S. and the EU’s 7-8%, was impacted by these shifts, but the effects were less severe for several reasons. Many Asian economies are more insulated due to tighter monetary policies and more conservative fiscal approaches. Additionally, Asian countries have more controlled markets, meaning they can manage inflationary pressures more effectively. However, since the USD is still widely used in global trade, the price of imports, especially in energy and goods priced in dollars, rose for them too.

The main takeaway is that the U.S. dollar’s strength or weakness impacts economies differently depending on how reliant they are on global trade and the dollar itself. While the U.S. and the EU struggled with higher inflation due to expansive monetary policies and supply chain issues, parts of Asia experienced lower inflation because of a combination of stronger local currencies, controlled import prices, lower reliance on USD trade goods, and more cautious fiscal policies.


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The only thing we know is that printing money causes inflation, and Trump happened to print over 3 trillion dollars in 2020.
You're missing the mark if you think Trump caused inflation just by printing money in 2020. Inflation isn’t as simple as "print money, get inflation." What really matters is how much the money supply grows compared to the actual economy, measured by GDP. Sure, Trump oversaw trillions in stimulus, but during that time, the economy was practically on pause due to the pandemic. The real danger comes when there’s too much money in the system and not enough goods or services to match it—that’s when prices spike, and that's not what was happening in 2020.

Inflation didn't explode in 2020 because demand was low—people weren’t spending like usual, supply chains were disrupted, and businesses were struggling to stay open. Most of the money went to producers to stay solvent through PPP instead of pumping demand with only consumer stimulus. So while a lot of money was injected into the economy, it wasn’t immediately chasing goods and services. The problem came later when the economy started bouncing back, but supply chains were still a mess, and there was too much liquidity floating around. That’s when we started seeing inflation shoot up—not simply because money was printed in 2020.

So, it’s not about Trump causing inflation by printing money; it’s about how that money interacted with the economy and where it was allocated under Biden. The real issue is when the money supply grows without the economy growing alongside it. Once demand through exorbitant consumer stimulus giveaways picked up and supply couldn’t keep pace with faltering GDP growth, prices naturally rose. This is a basic mismatch between money and goods, and it took a while to fully materialize. The 2020 stimulus didn’t trigger inflation as the GDP recovered—it was the later imbalance between money and failed projections of productivity that came afterward.

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It’s also related to Biden ending new drilling permits which cause the rise in gas prices and input prices for virtually every product. 
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That's a large part of the reason for how he also got 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth while also pumping stimulus money into the demand column.
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Inflation isn’t as simple as "print money, get inflation
Actually, it is. It is as simple as that. You cant print over 3 trillion dollars in a short time and expect no inflation after. You cant, but its not like MAGA understands basics of economy.
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Also, inflation has less significance under Biden since more people have access to healthcare, and rate of poverty didnt increase under Biden.

But yeah, Trump's 3 trillion budget deficit money printing, covid which lasted longer under Biden, and war with Russia all contributed to inflation.

But wages increased significantly, and Biden also gave financial support to people affected by inflation, which is why poverty rate didnt increase under Biden, despite all Biden had to deal with.

But sure, MAGA keeps dreaming.
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I can have AI teach you about how GDP relative to money supply causes inflation if you want to become smart.

You may be "simple as that" but AI is not.
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You can keep dreaming and living in delusion. You can do whatever you want. The rest of us will live in reality.
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When the money supply and GDP grow at a similar pace, the increase in goods and services (GDP) keeps up with the extra money in circulation. This balance allows the economy to expand without causing significant price changes, keeping inflation in check. Inflation happens when there’s more money than there are goods to buy, pushing prices up. But as long as the supply of goods grows alongside the money supply, this imbalance doesn’t occur. However, if GDP shrinks for two straight quarters, inflation will rise unless dollars are removed from circulation to counteract the drop in production.

As for pretending it’s a delusion to learn from AI—come on, you’re only holding yourself back! In an age where technology can offer near-instant insights, dismissing that potential for growth is just wasting opportunities. You know better than to let lazy thinking, cynicism or lazy partisanship stunt your progress. Don’t reject a valuable resource just because it’s new or challenges old habits.

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So you think Trump increasing money supply by 30% in one year, Trump reducing GDP and Trump leaving office with high unemployment had no effect on inflation, after AI told you that money supply has effect on inflation?

You dont understand what AI says. You dont know what you are talking about. I could tell you about all the complicated things which seem to confuse you. I could explain them to you over and over. Its pointless since you cant understand.
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  • If the money supply grows faster than real output, prices will usually rise, leading to inflation.
  • The nominal GDP tends to rise with the money supply.
  • Real GDP (inflation-adjusted) depends on the size of the economy.
  • The quantity theory of money suggests that excessive money supply relative to the economy can lead to inflation.
  • However, economists have differing views on the complexity of this relationship.

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You dont understand what AI says. You dont know what you are talking about. I could tell you about all the complicated things which seem to confuse you. I could explain them to you over and over. Its pointless since you cant understand.
And you can't remember when GDP had 2 consecutive negative quarters. We are stupid brothers.
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Take COVID-19 deaths, for example—over 400,000 people passed away by the time Trump left office. But Biden’s really upped the ante, with over 600,000 additional deaths by the end of 2022
Someone failed their basic math exam.

Trump deaths in 2020: 400k
Trump deaths per year: 400k

Biden deaths in 2021 & 2022: 600k
Biden deaths per year: 300k

Not exactly upping the ante. Might want to check that AI a little closer before hitting "Create post".
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And you can't remember when GDP had 2 consecutive negative quarters. We are stupid brothers.
What nonsense. Are you even sentient?

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In few months, there will be elections and Trump will clearly lose. So lets let GP  have few more months of delusion before his world view collapses. But then GP will go again with stolen elections story heh
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The facts are clear. Biden had more  total dead people. Maybe gently suggest the OP to stop reducing things to strawmans (like claiming falsely Trump had more Covid deaths) if you want to have real discussions.
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In few months, there will be elections and Trump will clearly lose
That's probably going to happen, but Kamala certainly will not win. You won't understand why though.
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Don't you mean Kamalabla?
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Don't you mean Melaniabla?
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I see what you mean.
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Oh pulease, you are missing the big picture, intentionally, I think.

This country has always come together when faced with a common enemy, but not under Trump, as he does with everything, he made it into an “us vs them” conflict and botched our response miserably.  The first US case occurred as Trump entered his last year in office, he went from zero to 400,000 deaths in one year.
Public health and national security experts had been warning about the next pandemic for years, in response Obama developed the National Security Council directorate charged with preparation, detection, and response, Trump eliminated the office because it was put in place by Obama.  Then when coronavirus hit, Trump declared that it “came out of nowhere” and “blindsided the world.”, but that was a bald-faced lie. What followed was a million American deaths that could have been prevented.

The Covid crisis could have been controlled, instead Trump politicized it, he made public health officials and Dr. Fauci the “them of his “us/them” thinking at a time when we needed their expertise the most, first he said it was a democratic “conspiracy” of course, more interested in how it made him look than in saving lives. He said it would “magically” go away when the summer came, and once it got out of hand, he made basic protections into a tribal thing, inspiring defiance towards basic protections like masks and vaccines, school and business closings, in the end, a million people died because Trump didn’t want to look bad. 

Biden inherited a rapidly growing out-of-control pandemic that was killing 3,300 Americans a day, 185,000 Americans were infected with COVID-19, and the economy had lost millions of jobs, Trump gave us the highest unemployment rate since the great depression.  Less than 5% of the people had been vaccinated when Biden took office, what was necessary to get the pandemic under control was a behavioral change, and for Biden to fill the vacuum of leadership left by his incompetent predecessor.

Biden stepped in and provided the requisite leadership, engaging the full strength and capabilities of the federal government to combat the pandemic.
Biden deployed over 9,000 federal personnel to support vaccinations and utilized the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act to authorize additional health care providers, including retired doctors and dentists, to administer shots across the country. He dramatically increased the number of vaccination sites and provided $4.8 billion in funding to 57 states, localities, Tribes and territories to support and increase vaccination efforts.  Consequently, Biden’s leadership got 300 million vaccine shots administered in his first 150 days.

Biden met the challenge of the pandemic, providing the requisite leadership, and got the pandemic under control by focusing on saving lives instead of focusing on his image as Trump had done.

The million American Covid deaths were a result of Trump's incompetence, and you know it.