God and the multiverse

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The multiverse is a theory that many physicists today are seriously discussing. They remain divided on the issue, but if we assume for the sake of discussion that the multiverse is real, then to theists, I ask:

Do you believe there would be a different God in each universe, or one God over them all? If the latter, do you think God's values and commands would change from universe to universe, as befitting their fundamental differences? If you believe in an afterlife, would you expect to see souls from other universes there? Or would it be one afterlife per universe?
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Alright, just remember you asked! 

The multiverse is a theory that many physicists today are seriously discussing. They remain divided on the issue, but if we assume for the sake of discussion that the multiverse is real, then to theists, I ask:

This is more real than the average person knows. The God worlds lol, I catch heat from using that term but it means multiverses. There are several layers or "universes" within the created worlds. Each of these layers or worlds have endless planets, stars and galaxies. The reason it will likely remain a theory for a long, long time is because these worlds cannot be observed directly through a physical medium, mathematically maybe but the multi worlds exist at another rate of frequency, this is what you see in NDE's as well as the soul leaves the body it is present in the next parallel world. It is true of the body that the soul inhabits as well that it has a form that correlates with that layers frequency. 

Do you believe there would be a different God in each universe, or one God over them all?

It's both, all beings and all incarnations come from One original Source, the first Source encompasses everything, and every place. If the Creator wants to set up a hierarchy of "overlords" or gods, God does so through incarnations. These embodiments are created to govern each universe, and it could be possible they themselves are creators or have become creators. These beings are obviously way beyond any humans and souls that experience these beings believe they are God, and they are to some extent only they come out of the "Father" or whatever you want to call It, Hindus call that Brahman ect ect...they seem to have a more precise idea of what an incarnation is.
Anyways these entities or "spiritual" beings have different forms and different personalities, creation is also set up as a type of hierarchy or chain of progression and these beings also serve as a sort of gateway into the next world.

If the latter, do you think God's values and commands would change from universe to universe, as befitting their fundamental differences?

The spiritual laws of all the God worlds are the same all the way through and there exists 5 parallel multiverses in the lower half of the grand division of creation and then above that are the pure conscious worlds. These pure conscious worlds would be unlike anything you could ever dream of.
This "law" that encompasses all of creation is known as the law of Karma (sowing and reaping), as well as spiritual principles, they remain constant and apply to every single incarnation and every layer. There is no escape from that but the "natural" or physical laws vary because the universes operate at varying states of consciousness, and so natural laws correlate accordingly. The higher you get up into the God worlds the less mass and less limitations.

 If you believe in an afterlife, would you expect to see souls from other universes there? Or would it be one afterlife per universe?

You very well could...The after life IS the next parallel world the soul exists in as it leaves their current body, this would be what is referred to as the astral world and this is what most souls that leave this body are present in. This is the afterlife from the physical world but it goes much deeper. The soul can also eventually drop its astral body, only it lives much longer due to its lighter energetic frequency and mass. Here, like in every world are countless planets and galaxies and places the astral body can exist and that includes heavens. Most people don't know that heaven is a planet, and there's not just one.
Generally speaking only the higher souls can visit downwards, the souls in the lower worlds have to progress and leave their body to reach the higher realms unless they begin to cultivate that aspect of themselves. If you were to be present in the astral world yes you would likely see not only those souls who have relevance to you personally but many, many others. You should remember that souls still have lives and things they need to and want to accomplish even after they leave here. While the multiverses are incredibly beautiful and fun souls still have responsibilities and roles to fulfill so it's not like you'll see every soul that's ever lived just layin around lol, nah they still are very busy, much to learn and discover. Just like here on Earth souls can still impact their worlds and planets wherever they exist.

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gee, all these guys with PhDs building telescopes and sending rockets to Mars.... and all they had to do was ask you!
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Just sayin...
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You'd be surprised what some spiritual souls know :)
Then again would you ever accept it, that's why it will take them countless generations to come. Meanwhile all the souls that leave their physical body will know how unaware the people here are.
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Don't bother. He basically stated no one who doesn't practice a religion should talk about it but he posts in a religion forum. He is a dying troll angry at god for being sick taking it out on theists. No one should engage him. 
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The only advice I gave was

"It's probably best to avoid Judaic terms, unless you are Jewish or referencing material that is specific to Judaism such as Midrash, which is damn rare on DArt."


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He wouldn't leave though. Got to put his two cents in on something he thinks is fake cause you know, atheism. 
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The Ultimate Reality by definition must contain every alternate universe if they exist. The right way is always The Truth, that is universal.

So 1 God over them all.

I hope that conclusively answers your question.





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There is only one universe
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Don't discount it just yet! if we discounted hypotheses in the past we would have never made any progress..."It's a hypothesis that's barely beyond the level of speculation. Even though there are mathematical models which allow for the existence of the multiverse, the parallel universe and multiverse hypotheses are not yet within the realm of explorable phenomena." 
It's only speculation coming from a secular human perspective because they need more than some physical medium to test besides mathmatics, the proposition has been around as long as spirituality just about. Have you ever seen a circle labyrinth? this is kind of the concept of it which IMO explains better the layered experiences humans have including OBE's. This image is the closest thing to what I mean....the center being pure consciousness and the multiverses would be the layers. 

Or even better yet, this image, just forget the silly face in the middle lol...the center column which runs down through all the worlds is the pure conscious state of God.

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MULTIVERSE....multi dimensional....?????

The smaller HUMANS travel to discover...how small does IT get ?  the more empty space there is ?    where does SMALL end or Begin ? 
Same goes for the Macro model...how expansive is this so called dark MATTER/ENERGY...13 billion ?  20 billion light years ?  from the 
so called singularity ?   

Earth's blue sky seems vast...yet the atmosphere that filters light energy to appear blue ends around 60 miles above Earth's surface...
HUMANS exist in a bubble...few humans exist above 20,000 feet of sea level  the majority of humans 7 billion exist within a 3 mile 
range....most of humanity exist in a bubble just 3 miles high of sea level...

There does not seem to be a source of energy that can illuminate DARK MATTER?ENERGY....as the sun does with Earth...the Earth itself 
is a multiverse...there are organisms that exist where no human can....organisms that are invisible the exist with in the air humans breathe
yet these organism are invisible...they exist in a different universe...

The question is more about other spaces that also have Galaxies and anomalies of all sorts or perhaps not....so the answer is POSSIBLY

It's the same answer that goes along with the "GOD" stupidity...maybe there is such an entity maybe not...SO WHAT ? none of it is worth
MURDERING others over it...forcing others to accept it as an ABSOLUTE TRUTH that must be accepted, worshipped, and obeyed  ....NO WAY

This is what makes YOUR opening statement beyond SICK and IRRELEVANT....

"GOD" a word invented by a Roman Church clown...who was translating the Hebrew/greek Bible into Eastern Germanic (Gothic)  the word "GOD"
did NOT EXIST prior to 400 AD....that translates to at least 6000 years before Jesus shows up.....

This "GOD" idiocy needs to be trashed...because to many HYPNOTIZED Jesus/Allah Parasite Vampire followers want to force their "GOD" construct
on others....this has nothing to do with the real question...of MULTIVERSES...since "GOD" like the MULTIVERSE is a possibility...but not for these
Jesus and Allah parasite vampires...they want to force their idiotic fairy tales on others including possible Alien Species...who if they are smart would
vaporize the JESUS/ALLAH Vampire Parasite...

How utterly pathetic to drag this idiotic "GOD" garbage across the Galaxy and beyond....this infantile self exterminating Parasite human wants to 
spread its GOD disease..and threaten other possible life forms if they do not accept their "GOD".....surely any advanced species would see the
intention behind this "GOD" farce and most likely destroy EARTH....can't blame them...

Your "GOD" is as likely as the Multiverse....until HE ? actually shows up...."GOD" is nothing more than a human fabricated construct.. a POSSIBILITY



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God Worlds bwuahahahahahahaha
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@Castin
It's impossible to answer any of this with certainty, but. . .

I believe there'd be one God in all of reality, not one god for each universe, although it's possible that God could delegate the authority to govern each universe to a different angelic/spiritual being.

I don't think God's values would be different in different universes because a persons values don't change with location, but I do think it's possible that he might issue different commands in different universes because it's possible the circumstances could be different in such a way that commands in one universe wouldn't apply to another universe. After all, God has even changed his commands in THIS universe. He once commanded that people not eat pork, but now it's okay.

I really can't speculate at all on whether we should expect to see souls from other universes in the afterlife. I'm 50/50 on that.


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Surely there's no need to go as far as other universes.... would there be little green aliens in heaven?
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The multiverse is greatly supported by a oneness / pantheistic type of platform. Creator gods would fall apart in such a platform. Bc the implications of the creator god or i should say main religion one god our universe type thinking doesn't match up. But if everything is a part of an infinite consciousness, then there is no heaven or hell, there is no one god looking over you type thinking, any one god creates man in its image, etc. The platform would be the source to life, and life can manifest in infinite ways in infinite realities. No rules other than death being one with everything, living being a dual being experiencing. How that happens for each is subjective to the observer. 
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What are these spiritual constants you say exist in every universe? If intelligent alien life arose in another universe, with an evolution different from our own and based on the different physics of that universe, wouldn't these aliens have very different ideas of "spiritual principles"?

Also, is your belief in the multiverse at all influenced by contemporary theoretical physics, or is it 100% spiritual revelation?
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 What are these spiritual constants you say exist in every universe?

The law of Karma, or as Jesus puts it sowing and reaping.

If intelligent alien life arose in another universe, with an evolution different from our own and based on the different physics of that universe, wouldn't these aliens have very different ideas of "spiritual principles"?

Anatomy, physics and even chemistry are of a different nature than the spiritual based laws, because while forms and environmental factors change the spiritual laws stay the same because they are non-physical of course, so physics in this sense is irrelevant. Kind of like if I made a law that applied to all cultures and civilizations that said "don't kill outside of protecting" it would apply across the board not just to those with certain physical features. Likewise Karma applies to the whole of creation not just one planet. Anatomy changes obviously because the environments vary, in other words you can't put a human body in another galaxy because human anatomy has been acclimated to its surroundings.
Alien or not, the law of Karma never changes, this is what dictates every creatures future experiences... pleasant or nasty. They may have different ideas but negative and positive stay constant. 

Also, is your belief in the multiverse at all influenced by contemporary theoretical physics, or is it 100% spiritual revelation?

My beliefs are not influenced by theoretical physics but they are supported by it for sure without any doubts, quantum mechanics is the only secular study pushing the envelope beyond what we perceive with our physical senses. All the information I acquire about the God-worlds have been through spiritual sources or personal experience, and then when I study quantum fields and so on it aligns beautifully, filling in some gaps of course along the way.