RFK's speech and endorsement

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There are certain parts that definitely get a huge thumbs up from me:

When he describes how the regulatory agencies, specifically FDA and food related are staffed by people from giant food processor corporations and how this is not a good thing my libertarian juices flowed swiftly.

Let me be more specific about my thoughts on this. I know enough about biology to know what it is that "scientists" know and don't know. They have no way to predict chemical reaction chains of enormously complex molecules that could go on for a hundred transformations. It is physically impossible (at this time) to actually have a controlled experiment for biological effect. There are too many factors that cannot be ruled out. It's like weather models but ten times worse. Every different thing someone eats, every different chemical they are exposed to, every tiny difference in gene expression, every virus, every persistent bacteria THEY ARE ALL POTENTIAL FACTORS!

Since I understand this my analysis of specific medical/biological claims have been somewhat confusing for people who don't understand. I trust the experimental data when it says a correlation IS found. You take aspirin, your blood pressure goes down (or something). You take penicillin the bacteria die and the white blood cell count goes down. That sort of thing. The factors are all still there but correlation can be established simply by looking at two (or some finite) number of objectively measurable quantities.

However whenever someone makes a claim about what could not be (or is not) happening I become hyper suspicious. Hydroxychloroquine/ivermectin does not help covid for example. How do you know? What variables did you control for? Did you control for them all (no you didn't I promise).

It is an excellent example of where the asymmetrical chasm between positive burden of proof vs negative can be vast.

Bringing us to the method by which our government determines chemicals are safe. Basically they can't. They can eliminate the direct and simple correlations but that's it. In ancient China they used to drink mercury because they thought it would help. It doesn't, it hurts, but it hurts in such a delayed and conditional manner that they could not see the correlation. The same with Roman lead plumbing.

What we do when we test an artificial preservative or pesticide is more informed but ultimately we are vulnerable in the same way. RFK's point about the explosion of chronic illness cannot  be brushed away. There are alternative hypotheses, the simplest of which is that we are subject to retroviruses which have wrecked our metabolic control systems combined with 'doctors' manufacturing their own job security by diagnosing everyone with subjective diseases.

It does need to be explained though and the hypothesis that there is some set of those artificial chemicals we have been using that is causing this is plausible not withstanding those (as I described) far from conclusive negative studies.

Bringing it back home, if there is anyone to mistrust on the matter it is the clearly easily and fully corrupted federal bureaucracy. It would be a miracle if the DOJ, EPA, CDC, and so many others are full of lying incompetent crooks (swamp monsters), but the food regulatory agencies were magically pure and above reproach.

A moral leader can control corruption for a time, but the stable long term solution is a system that motivates accuracy through self-interest, this is often best accomplished by an adversarial system, truth is found in the debate.

BTW this is what a candidate talking about policy looks like. It's not "democracy" that is choosing Harris over him.
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Remember that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ said a parasitic worm made its way to his brain “and ate a portion of it and then died.”

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Remember that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ said a parasitic worm made its way to his brain “and ate a portion of it and then died.”
Do you have anything to say about his policy ideals?
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On Tuesday, Kennedy’s running mate, Nicole Shanahan, told an interviewer the campaign was weighing whether to “join forces” with Trump and suggested that Kennedy would do an “incredible job” as secretary of health and human services. Trump later told CNN that he “probably would” appoint Kennedy to some role. 
I hope that as Secretary of Health and Human Services he would not let Trump voters families get vaccines.
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Do you have anything to say about his policy ideals?
RFK is just as extreme as Trump. Injecting bleach will help the two candidates.
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Crap, this means his base goes to Trump, probably all 14 of them too.
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Crap, this means his base goes to Trump, probably all 14 of them too.
Hope Trump’s camp doesn’t get hit with a worm contagion.
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RFK is just as extreme as Trump. Injecting bleach will help the two candidates.
I guess technically this is true since both are actually moderates. Granted anti establishment moderates so villainized by the billionaires who run the media but moderates none the less.
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I guess technically this is true since both are actually moderates. Granted anti establishment moderates so villainized by the billionaires who run the media but moderates none the less.
Trump suffers from dementia. RFK had his brains eaten by worms. Are you saying they are moderate cases of each illness?

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Trump suffers from dementia.

This is stupid and people only say it because some co servatives and sensible liberals showed concern about Biden's brain health which resembled dementia. 


RFK had his brains eaten by worms. Are you saying they are moderate cases of each illness?
My wife has had a TBI, she isn't an idiot. She has bad taste in men, but she is not stupid and having issues that effect your brain doesn't make you stupid


Also and obviously when people speak of radical or moderate they are referring either how far somebody leans left or right or how far they will go to see their ideology enacted. 
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Also and obviously when people speak of radical or moderate they are referring either how far somebody leans left or right or how far they will go to see their ideology enacted. 
So you are saying Trump and RFK could be seriously ill but moderate in their ideology .
How is Trump a moderate? Trump has been impeached twice, indicted 4 times with 91 felony counts. Ordered to pay 88.3 million dollars for sexually assaulting and defaming E.Jean Carroll. Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money to keep her silent during the elections. Trump has been charged with tax fraud in Chicago to the tune of 100 million dollars. A New York jury on Thursday found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records — the first time a former U.S. president has been convicted of a crime.
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I guess technically this is true since both are actually moderates. Granted anti establishment moderates so villainized by the billionaires who run the media but moderates none the less.
Trump suffers from dementia. RFK had his brains eaten by worms.
... and yet it was the millions of the democrat party's base that believed whatever lie was fed to them including the lie that Joeseph Biden was mentally fit and would be running for reelection.

Apparently only those with dementia and brain worms can predict the future more accurately than the propaganda media.


How is Trump a moderate? Trump has been impeached twice, indicted 4 times with 91 felony counts.
Showing how extreme his opponents are, not how extreme he is.
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Showing how extreme his opponents are, not how extreme he is.
Over the course of five decades, Donald Trump has been accused of sexual assault, tax evasion, money laundering, non-payment of employees, and the defrauding of tenants, customers, contractors, investors, bankers, and charities. Also filed 6 bankruptcies.

Trump filed 7 corporate bankruptcies, a failed airline, a failed magazine, a failed scam university, three failed casinos, a failed pandemic response, the worst jobs record of any U.S. president, two impeachments, and 34 criminal convictions, Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money.
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Showing how extreme his opponents are, not how extreme he is.
Over the course of five decades, Donald Trump has been accused of sexual assault, tax evasion, money laundering, non-payment of employees, and the defrauding of tenants, customers, contractors, investors, bankers, and charities. Also filed 6 bankruptcies.

Trump filed 7 corporate bankruptcies, a failed airline, a failed magazine, a failed scam university, three failed casinos, a failed pandemic response, the worst jobs record of any U.S. president, two impeachments, and 34 criminal convictions, Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money.
I am aware of the cover stories for the deep state attacks.

If he was a real criminal and there really was a justice system in New York he would have been charged with all these supposed crimes (and you included plenty of things that aren't crimes true or not) at the time he supposedly committed them. Trouble is (and this is easy to show), no sane person (not even a police report) thought the things he did were crimes (because they weren't).

Before opposing the deep state: everything is fine, laughing with oprah
After opposing the deep state: calling someone who accused you of a heinous crime a liar is a crime (but only for you)

That's extreme, or to use precisely the right word: lawless

If it had to be a sentence: Lawless insanity which isn't fooling nearly enough people to avoid starting a civil war over it
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I am aware of the cover stories for the deep state attacks.

If he was a real criminal and there really was a justice system in New York he would have been charged with all these supposed crimes (and you included plenty of things that aren't crimes true or not) at the time he supposedly committed them. Trouble is (and this is easy to show), no sane person (not even a police report) thought the things he did were crimes (because they weren't).

Before opposing the deep state: everything is fine, laughing with oprah
After opposing the deep state: calling someone who accused you of a heinous crime a liar is a crime (but only for you)

That's extreme, or to use precisely the right word: lawless

If it had to be a sentence: Lawless insanity which isn't fooling nearly enough people to avoid starting a civil war over it

He's been charged with four criminal counts, including conspiracy to defraud the US and conspiracy against the rights of citizens.
Some had speculated he would be charged with insurrection, or aiding insurrection, but that is not one of the charges.
Trump and some 18 other defendants are accused of criminally conspiring to overturn his very narrow defeat in the state of Georgia in the 2020 election.
The racketeering investigation, led by Georgia prosecutor Fani Willis, was sparked in part by a leaked phone call in which the former president asked the state's top election official to "find 11,780 votes".
Trump was hit with 13 criminal counts, subsequently reduced to 10. They include one alleged violation of Georgia's Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (Rico).
The racketeering charge carries a maximum 20-year jail sentence.

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Remember that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ said a parasitic worm made its way to his brain “and ate a portion of it and then died.”
Do you have anything to say about his policy ideals?
Yes, what do you think of the worm's policy ideals?
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Remember that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ said a parasitic worm made its way to his brain “and ate a portion of it and then died.”
Do you have anything to say about his policy ideals?
Yes, what do you think of the worm's policy ideals?
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god the left-tribers on this site are insufferable. Moozer is the only one who even tries.
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Remember that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ said a parasitic worm made its way to his brain “and ate a portion of it and then died.”
His brain died? I guess thats why he supports Trump. Its because his brain died or a portion missing.
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Remember that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ said a parasitic worm made its way to his brain “and ate a portion of it and then died.”
RFK’s brain was even toxic for the worm who died from eating it.
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RFK is just as extreme as Trump. Injecting bleach will help the two candidates.
I guess technically this is true since both are actually moderates. Granted anti establishment moderates so villainized by the billionaires who run the media but moderates none the less.
Whoa, it really is contagious, now Wylted has a brain worm too.
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Lawless insanity which isn't fooling nearly enough people to avoid starting a civil war over it
LOL, you guys just love to talk about a civil war, makes you feel tough, give you a woody, and all that.

But realistically, you don't even know what that really means do you?

Who is the enemy, where is the enemy?  There is no North against South, no East vs East, just a big bunch of angry rednecks talking trash.

I mean, hypothetically, you assemble a Brigade size force of Proud Boys in north Georgia, now what?

Who, what, when, where, how and why?

What are their orders, tactically what do they do?  What enemy force do they engage?

Let's get real, you guys don't want a civil war, you don't have a clue what to do, what you want is a race war.

Now you have your marching orders, go forth and kill people of color.

That's your civil war.


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Well, Roe v Wade was their first step and next it will be removing the 15th Amendment.
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LOL, you guys just love to talk about a civil war, makes you feel tough, give you a woody, and all that.

But realistically, you don't even know what that really means do you?

Who is the enemy, where is the enemy?  There is no North against South, no East vs East, just a big bunch of angry rednecks talking trash.

I mean, hypothetically, you assemble a Brigade size force of Proud Boys in north Georgia, now what?

Who, what, when, where, how and why?

What are their orders, tactically what do they do?  What enemy force do they engage?

Let's get real, you guys don't want a civil war, you don't have a clue what to do, what you want is a race war.

Now you have your marching orders, go forth and kill people of color.

That's your civil war.
There are enough guns and weapons to start a civil war in America. The Americans are divided enough to stat a civil war to resolve their differences. Trump promises to unite the Reich that should be enough support from him to fuel a civil war.
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LOL, you guys just love to talk about a civil war, makes you feel tough, give you a woody, and all that.

But realistically, you don't even know what that really means do you?

Who is the enemy, where is the enemy?  There is no North against South, no East vs East, just a big bunch of angry rednecks talking trash.

I mean, hypothetically, you assemble a Brigade size force of Proud Boys in north Georgia, now what?

Who, what, when, where, how and why?

What are their orders, tactically what do they do?  What enemy force do they engage?

Let's get real, you guys don't want a civil war, you don't have a clue what to do, what you want is a race war.

Now you have your marching orders, go forth and kill people of color.

That's your civil war.
There are enough guns and weapons to start a civil war in America. The Americans are divided enough to stat a civil war to resolve their differences. Trump promises to unite the Reich that should be enough support from him to fuel a civil war.
MAGA has plenty of weapons and plenty desire for violence, but a "civil war" requires some kind of clearly defined demarcation between enemies, but they don't have that, they don't really want a "civil war", they want a "race war", that's the only demarcation they need.  

Those losers think those punk-ass redneck Proud Boys makes them strong, what a joke, big hat no cattle.

If they did get their war, all of a sudden there will be a 60 million new cases of bone spurs.




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MAGA has plenty of weapons and plenty desire for violence, but a "civil war" requires some kind of clearly defined demarcation between enemies, but they don't have that, they don't really want a "civil war", they want a "race war", that's the only demarcation they need.  

Those losers think those punk-ass redneck Proud Boys makes them strong, what a joke, big hat no cattle.

If they did get their war, all of a sudden there will be a 60 million new cases of bone spurs.
Trump would like a civil war in his name. Keeping the spoils of war will be compensation for all the business he lost playing president.

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Who is the enemy
Apparently brain worms.


What are their orders, tactically what do they do?  What enemy force do they engage?
I have answers, but I don't see why I would possibly waste them for a defaming frothing-mouth lunatic who has no genuine interest in discussing tactics, strategy, or the origin of conflicts (ethics, which is much more important to debate) such as yourself.


but a "civil war" requires some kind of clearly defined demarcation between enemies
What a moron.
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Did you notice that RFK's hands are twice the size of Trump's?
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While Kamala's closest advisors urge her to discuss hand size, the winners of the swing state vote will discuss actual issues and policies.
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If we ever know the winners of swing state votes...