Trump and Republicans want a 12 yo girl to carry the baby of her step-father

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That’s why we call them MAGA MORONS 
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strawman.
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Yes you are
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I would add a Confirmation Bias too.
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Among others.
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I would add a Confirmation Bias too.
You saw the girl tell her story tonight? It’s well known in Kentucky 

Republicans support the rights of the incestuous rapists.

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Strawman.
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Garbage presenter.
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Actually not a strawman.

While of course the GOP is very hard on the sort of crimes that would result in a 12 year old being impregnated by her stepfather, once said baby has come to exist, it deserves the same protections of life as anybody else.
Our opponents have taken to revive practices so barbaric that even 1,600 years ago high civilization knew to recoil in horror and outlaw them. We aren't the ones who have anything to be ashamed of.
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Actually is a strawman as the GOP much like the rest of the country have a very moderate stance on abortion. When polled, a majority of GOP would be OK with early term abortions.

I am pretty sure there is a 2022 Gallup poll which found that 60% of Republicans supported legal abortion in the first trimester, while 28% opposed it.

"Republicans want a 12-year-old girl to carry the baby of her stepfather" is by definition a strawman because it oversimplifies and misrepresents the views of many Republicans on abortion. The OP is clearly worded in a way to promote extreme views for shock value regardless of reality. Let's not even address the fact that New Yorker Trump repeatedly expressed a moderate view personally on abortion....

It's a strawman. Period.
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Trump said the states should decide, so his opinion is irrelevant as he is running for a federal position
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The girl is the one who should get to decide.

Her body. Her choice.
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She can also decide to live in a decadent state with welfare and affordable baby killing facilities.

“It’s easy to force people not to give birth,” Yi said. “But to force people to have children? That’s impossible.”

Her body. Her choice.
Kind of hard to make that choice when you have mountains of state propaganda and policies encouraging abortion.

It's not really a choice, it's just resignation.

When you live in a country where corporate interests drive government policies, it is very easy to understand why the government wants to steer women out of the kitchen and into the corporate workforce on the way to the local clinic.
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Remember when a woman accused Donald Trump of raping her when she was 13 years old and filed a lawsuit in federal court in New York? The lawsuit alleges that the assaults happened at parties hosted by billionaire Jeffrey Epstein . The woman, who doesn’t want to be named, claims that Trump initiated sexual contact four times and “forcibly” raped her back in 1994. OMG, that's why  Evangelicals love Trump, they think he is God and likes Virgin Mary's.
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Now you're a WAPO?
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The woman, who doesn’t want to be named, 

"We know the truth is otherwise, thanks to a video capture of Ford’s lawyer, Debra Katz, saying that her client wanted to block Kavanaugh because of fears he would vote to reverse Roe v. Wade. Ford’s fears might have been justified, but her tactics — which have netted her $1 million in donations plus overnights at Oprah’s — were not.

Nothing good grows under a cow patty, but Ford sure did step in one."


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Kind of hard to make that choice when you have mountains of state propaganda and policies encouraging abortion
I agree that propaganda always has the effect on all people, but that doesnt mean people dont have a choice. People have their choices and goals.
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While of course the GOP is very hard on the sort of crimes that would result in a 12 year old being impregnated by her stepfather, 
They are? Trump is known for pardoning convicted felons as he is one himself.

Our opponents have taken to revive practices so barbaric that even 1,600 years ago high civilization knew to recoil in horror and outlaw them. We aren't the ones who have anything to be ashamed of.
That’s a lie. And you should be ashamed that you would make a 12 yo girl carry her rapists baby.

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Like the Matrix, it's an illusion of choice.
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Actually is a strawman as the GOP much like the rest of the country have a very moderate stance on abortion.
Oh yes, so moderate. No abortion after 6 weeks. No exceptions for rape, incest, or the health of the mother.

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No work again today? 
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Trump said the states should decide, so his opinion is irrelevant as he is running for a federal position
Just like slavery. And interracial marriage. And gay marriage 

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She can also decide to live in a decadent state with welfare and affordable baby killing facilities.
A 12 yo can do all that?

When you live in a country where corporate interests drive government policies, it is very easy to understand why the government wants to steer women out of the kitchen and into the corporate workforce on the way to the local clinic.
Yet you have all this time to bang away on the keyboard in the middle of the work week. I guess they failed with you.

Funny how the guy who has no children thinks it’s so important that women have children 

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Your statement is both misleading and dismissive, as it suggests that only people with children are qualified to have opinions on issues related to family and reproduction. This logic is flawed because it ignores the fact that people can have valid and informed perspectives on a wide range of topics, regardless of their personal circumstances. Dismissing someone’s viewpoint solely because they don’t have children is an intellectually lazy argument that avoids engaging with the substance of their beliefs.

Additionally, reducing a person’s opinions on important societal issues to their personal circumstances is a form of ad hominem attack, where you’re targeting the person rather than addressing their arguments. This is not only unfair but also undermines meaningful discourse. Just because someone doesn’t have children doesn’t mean they can’t understand or advocate for policies they believe are in the best interest of society, including those related to family and reproductive rights.

You need to recognize that this kind of argument is a cheap shot that avoids grappling with the complexities of the issue at hand. It’s crucial to engage with ideas based on their merit, not on irrelevant personal details. Focusing on the person rather than the argument is a sign of intellectual laziness and shows a lack of respect for thoughtful discussion.

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Your statement is both misleading and dismissive, as it suggests that only people with children are qualified to have opinions on issues related to family and reproduction. 
That is the opinion of JD Vance, right?

What does AI say about middle aged men who buy cars for women so they will spend time with them?

Let’s try

A grown man who lives all alone and is reduced to buying cars and other expensive gifts for strange women in exchange for their time is both unhealthy and pathetic.
While it fills a void in the necessary need for human contact, especially with those of the opposite sex, it ultimately leads to abandonment and feelings of guilt and inadequacy when the paid companion tires of her sponsor and moves on to someone that has more to offer.

It works! Nails it



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Requesting an AI to engage in ad hominem attacks is a fundamental misunderstanding of what productive and respectful discourse should be. Ad hominem attacks are fallacies that target a person’s character or circumstances instead of addressing the actual argument or issue at hand. Resorting to such tactics is not only intellectually lazy but also destructive to meaningful conversation. By asking for this, you’re encouraging a breakdown in communication, where the focus shifts from constructive dialogue to petty personal attacks.

Engaging in ad hominem attacks does nothing to advance an argument or uncover truth. It only serves to belittle, distract, and polarize. This approach fosters an environment of hostility and disrespect, where ideas are not debated on their merits but dismissed based on irrelevant personal characteristics. If you rely on attacking the person rather than their ideas, you’re not engaging in reasoned debate; you’re simply avoiding the hard work of grappling with complex issues and ideas.

You should strive for higher standards of discussion, focusing on the strength of arguments and evidence rather than lowering yourself to personal insults. Encouraging or requesting ad hominem attacks reflects poorly on your commitment to genuine intellectual engagement. Instead, aim for debates that challenge ideas rigorously but respectfully, contributing to a healthier and more productive exchange of ideas.

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Like the Matrix, it's an illusion of choice
Its not an illusion of choice. Its better if girl can choose if she wants to keep the baby or not, than adults forcing her to abortion or forcing her to give birth when she doesnt want to.

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I agree it's better to give a woman an illusion of choice rather than having the state force her to have an abortion like China did.

That way, women will transition more easily out of the kitchen and onto the corporate assembly line like good compliant servants to the corporate oligarchy.

I believe it's preferable to present women with the appearance of choice rather than imposing state-mandated abortions, as was done in China. This  ensures that women willingly will seamlessly transition from traditional family roles into the workforce, where they can serve the interests of the corporate oligarchy, aligning with the demands of modern capitalism.
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I agree that abortion is bad even if its a choice. I just dont find the idea of forced birth entertaining. I guess there is no perfect solution.
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Blame god and evolution for making life an instinctual compulsion instead of a unhindered choice.

Luckily, Capitalism has ways to treat those compulsions in a humane way.