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Here are mine which are probably all wrong:

Biden does not drop out. He has few if any “senior moments” from here on out because access to him will be carefully planned and limited and he will slowly claw back support, but too much damage is done and Trump wins. It’s a relatively weak victory all things considered, his 2016 map + Nevada and a popular vote margin of +1%. All the talk of Trump winning Virginia, Minnesota, Maine, etc is a pipe dream. This isn’t the Republican 2008, but it could’ve been with a better candidate. 

In the senate the GOP wins West Virginia, Montana, and Ohio but predictably chokes in the other close states. In the house the republicans keep their majority but it’s a similarly weak showing to 2022. 

Thomas and Alito retire in the first years of Trump’s term. Trump is about as unpopular as he was in his first term, give or take a few % either way. None of the “project 2025” stuff happens. Trump doesn’t do much of anything as POTUS.

Very little happens on immigration because both sides quietly realize that a growing population is key to economic growth and a real decline in living standards is the one thing the population absolutely will not tolerate. However there will be some change to the antiquated, post WWII asylum system. Smart Dems realize that hoards of dependents being able to overwhelm the border and stay in the country on taxpayer dime if they say a few magic words is a long term strategic threat to their party. The fiscal situation continues to get worse as Trump extends at least some of his tax cuts without meaningful spending cuts. There is a free and fair election in 2028, democracy doesn’t end and Trump leaves with his ego satisfied. Entitlements are not touched.  Biden is remembered as the guy who let Trump back into office 
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Some brief predictions

Literally day 1 the war in the Ukraine stops with both sides pissed about the concessions they have to make, and piaaing and moaning from war hawks. 

The people surrounding Trump wage war on the media seeing as how it almost ended democracy and the fairness doctrine returns. Everyone cries about freedom of speech and in return we actually get a more honest media

Somebody big goes to prison for fun. Maybe not as big as Biden or Obama, but we need a sacrificial lamb to male it look like justice is fair and get some revenge. Maybe we lock up Oprah.

In 2028 Vivek Ramaswamy faces off against the Rock in the general election and the rock wins the white house
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The rock has been wanting to run for president for a while. Google it and everybody loves him so he is peeling off a lot of Trump voters if he can shut his mouth about libtard stuff
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/nov/10/dwayne-the-rock-johnsonus-president-run-party
2028 is his year and on top of it, he has refused to make an endorsement this election season so he can more easily attract Republicans to vote democrat
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Biden does not drop out
Well, yeah, put all your hopes in that basket lmao
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None of that sounds super unlikely, but I think a lot is still up in the air. I think we might get parts of Project 2025, but the craziest parts probably won't happen.
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PS, even if it’s Kamala and not Biden the scandal of hiding the presidents rapidly deteriorating mental state from the American people isn’t one that can be easily shaken. Everybody knew, and they lied 
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“Predictions are hard to make— especially about the future.”
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I don’t think Trump has the policy chops to implement real changes and he also doesn’t have his ego under control enough to essentially hand the keys to aids who know what they’re doing. But to be honest I haven’t read the full project 2025 document, I just saw some stuff democrats were freaking out about that I was pretty confident aren’t going to happen. There could be some more modest stuff in there that gets done 
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Literally day 1 the war in the Ukraine stops with both sides pissed about the concessions they have to make, and piaaing and moaning from war hawks. 
Foreign leaders are somewhat afraid of Trump because of the madman theory and his ego making him not want stuff to happen under “his watch.” Biden is just so feckless it’s not surprising that there’s been so much chaos during his term 
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Yeah but they’re fun and if you’re right you look smart, if you’re wrong you can say “hey I don’t got a crystal ball!”
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I skimmed through the project 2025 document. It's not scary. I think it has some weird stuff like banning porn, but that particular thing is not likely to happen by a president who fucks porn stars. 

Most of what project 2025 Is trying to accomplish is merely making sure co servayives can stay competitive and they have a team of people on standby ready to surround the president to hit the floor running. Personally I applied to help but I only agree with them on like 65% of issues which isn't enough apparently.  

Meanwhile, while they are focused on project 2025 and nobody important reads this website, so I can reveal this. 

Operation own the libs is basically why Trump is getting a larger share of black and Hispanic voters than ever before. The strategy was to essentially start sending illegal immigrants by bus loads to sanctuary cities by red state governors to pass off the working class urbanites who have to deal with the problem of illegal immigration when it is in their face, and also bringing some of the more crazy liberal shit to the forefront of the public conscious by getting lawmakers to make the news while literally banning gay porn in elementary school libraries. 

Basically we all agree we don't want our kids looking at gay porn, so Republicans made sure that liberal parents k ow for a fact this is happening in the schools they send their kids to. We also let them know why immigration is a problem by putting it in their face so they lose subsidies to illegal aliens and simultaneously struggle harder for employment and have to deal with the crime behind it.

This has been so successful that Trump is literally only trailing Biden by 8 points in New York. 

It's a good thing the boomer conservatives are dying because Bush and Cheney never had what it took to secure America's future, which has less to do with the foreign policy than it does the character of our people.
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Foreign leaders are somewhat afraid of Trump because of the madman theory and his ego making him not want stuff to happen under “his watch.” Biden is just so feckless it’s not surprising that there’s been so much chaos during his term 
Yes and Trump plays into it well. I watched him when he met with Kim Jung Un and though Kim loosened up later in the meeting g he was next to Trump signing papers and visibly shaking in fear.

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Biden does not drop out

Well, yeah, put all your hopes in that basket lmao
Trump chances to win go down if Biden is swapped out,  and I still think Biden should drop out. We are entering very dangerous territory, and nobody wants to see the 25th amendment ever used. 
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Him remaining President is a serious issue. I don’t like Kamala but she’s an intelligent adult who seems to be “all there” and is comparatively young. It’s so absurd that he’s asking to be POTUS for another 4.5 years. Insulting 
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It is and alleged insiders say she is passed because there is talks of him dropping out and a bunch of names are coming up and hers is not one. 

I honestly think they timed this debate after primary voting ended but prior to the convention so they could fuck their own voters out of a democratic and fair vote and so party insiders could make the choice. 

If I was a Democrat I would vote Gor RFK over an obvious plant that was conveniently timed to come after voting was off the table.
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I don’t think they’ll be able to pass over the first black woman vice president. Live by identity politics die by identity politics 
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IMO it's impossible to predict the race before we know what happens on the day of Trump's sentencing, which is scheduled for September. If he gets off with nothing more than a fine like he did last time then sure, I believe what you're saying. Otherwise all bets are off. Despite everything we've seen in the past 9 years, I really think it's a stretch that 60-70 million Republicans will choose to cast their votes for a guy who's locked up in a state penitentiary.
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Yes, Biden will not drop out, he just said it in an abc interview.

So, these are my predictions:

1. Biden will be dropped out when the US get into chaos, and this is going to be very soon.
2. Kamala will assume the presidency as a consequence. 
3. Trump will win but he's going to suffer a murder attempt. The VP will assume the presidency.

So, my conclusion is that the next president will be who Trump chooses as his VP.
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but that particular thing is not likely to happen by a president who fucks porn stars. 
But Trump says he didn’t bang a porn star. He said that story was  made up by Biden.

Are you saying Trump is a bold faced liar?

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"Predictions are hard to make-especially about the future"

Sort of quoting a truism there.


Though I would suggest that some predictions, are more predictable than others.

Sort of:

Joe Biden will die within the next 15 years.

Or.

An interstellar spacecraft will visit us within the next 15 years.


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Though I would suggest that some predictions, are more predictable than others.
American Democrats can't see that people are fed up with what Democrats have been doing to their country so far. The people are going to vote a Republican candidate anyway no matter who this candidate is. They want a change very badly.

This shouldn't even have to be counted as a prediction because everyone can see it. I mean, if people are willing to vote for Trump who is probably the most despicable candidate in American history, it's because the situation is unbearable. Mind you, there are posters in this forum that want Trump dead, but even so people are going to vote for Trump.

The problem gets worse for Democrats when you have an old decrepit candidate that is not willing to step aside. This increases the chances for Trump to be elected. So, the prediction that Trump will be the next president is justified outright.
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I'm voting for Trump. He will bankrupt the USA which will wipe out the Republican Party.
PROJECT 2025!!!!!
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I'm voting for Trump. He will bankrupt the USA which will wipe out the Republican Party.
Either democrats win 2024 either they win 2028.

Really, people who think Biden is bad will cry tears after Trump wins and gives himself yet another tax break while they are unemployed and robbed of healthcare.
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The way I see it is:

Democrats will remain democrats and republicans will remain republicans.

And thinking men and women will decide the outcome of the next Presidential election.

Though it's a shame that all The USA has to offer it's electorate, is an orange clown and a senile old man.

Which would be extremely funny if it wasn't so serious.

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I'm glad I am a smart old man.
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I'm also glad that you are.


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It’s a relatively weak victory all things considered, his 2016 map + Nevada and a popular vote margin of +1%. All the talk of Trump winning Virginia, Minnesota, Maine, etc is a pipe dream. This isn’t the Republican 2008, but it could’ve been with a better candidate. 

In the senate the GOP wins West Virginia, Montana, and Ohio but predictably chokes in the other close states. In the house the republicans keep their majority but it’s a similarly weak showing to 2022. 
Alright so other than getting the ultimate victor right I got the most  important part of my prediction wrong. Biden did actually drop out. But this prediction is pretty good, I got every state right and the PV will settle at about R +1.5%. The GOP house “victory” was indeed anemic and they choked in literally four (!) senate races where Trump won the presidential vote. But they did manage to pick up Pennsylvania by a tiny margin which is a big scalp.

If Biden had stayed in it would’ve been the Republican 2008 even with Trump. 
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Better than Alan Lichtman and his 13 keys...