Biden lost my vote with this

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So if Biden lost your vote with this, then that means you’re voting for trump or rfk? or just not voting at all?
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No way you are old enough to vote, try again.
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RCV FTW
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@Sidewalker
I'm at least 18.  But you would say that of any Biden critic if you didn't know their age, so I just brush it off.
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Jill Stein.  I don't agree with funding Israel as I'm America first.

You don't just shut out your political opponents in the debates.

The Biden crowd preaches about, "protecting democracy" until it's time to protect democracy by letting 3rd parties and non-establishment candidates debate Biden; then Biden doesn't want to debate other people in his primary or 3rd parties in the general.

A vote for Biden or Trump is a vibes vote because these people don't have principles.  The right says, "free and fair elections", the left says, "protecting democracy" but neither party head debated people in the primaries, so it's all empty slogans meant to appeal to the sheep.
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A vote for Biden or Trump is a vibes vote because these people don't have principles.  The right says, "free and fair elections", the left says, "protecting democracy" but neither party head debated people in the primaries, so it's all empty slogans meant to appeal to the sheep.
Spot on. Uniparty gonna uniparty.
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@TheUnderdog
The Biden crowd preaches about, "protecting democracy" until it's time to protect democracy by letting 3rd parties and non-establishment candidates debate Biden
Agreeing to debate someone has nothing to protecting democracy.
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Tell that to Jamal Bowman.
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Democrats aint at all about "protecting Democracy" or even all Democrats!. They only protect the Democrats that preserve the ruling class.

No shit, powerful people protect their own asses. Every failed country has their own oligarchy masquerading as "the people"
If a law has to be bent here and there, a rule needs to be reinterpreted, safeguards and balances need to be quietly removed, well, that's just how we "protect" shit.


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I have seen everything you mention here first hand in the mod pm
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That's a confession not an indictment of anyone
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@Double_R
Agreeing to debate someone has nothing to protecting democracy.
What is the definition of "protecting democracy"?  If Trump is 30 pts ahead of Biden in a hypothetical poll (like Biden was with the other democrats in the primary) and he refuses to debate him, then that wouldn't be good for democracy.

The 2 parties not debating RFK is bad for democracy.


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The 2 parties not debating RFK is bad for democracy.
Democracy is about the people’s right to choose their own leaders. That is entirely unaffected by whether Biden or Trump decides to get on a debate stage with RFK. If their decision animates you, vote for RFK. If it doesn’t, then don’t. And if enough people actually care about this then the candidates will act differently. That’s how democracy works.
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Censoring on MSM and debate venues and jailing your opposition are "features" of Democracy then?

It's hard for people to feel free to choose when they are forced into false dichotomies.
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@Greyparrot
Censoring on MSM and debate venues and jailing your opposition are "features" of Democracy then?

It's hard for people to feel free to choose when they are forced into false dichotomies.
The media is made up of private entities who all get to decide what they cover. No one owes you a platform, so refusing to give you one is not censorship.

The only person threatening to jail their political opponents is Trump. Trump is being prosecuted for the obvious crimes he committed, that’s how the rule of law works. Running for office as a shield so that you can blame your political opposition for holding you accountable is not.

No one is being forced into anything. Choose whomever you want, and if the treat of the country chooses someone else then tough luck. That’s called democracy.
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@Double_R
The media is made up of private entities who all get to decide what they cover.
So maybe stop worshipping oligarchic propaganda? Just a thought if you care about democracy for the people and not just the usual clown show the oligarchs put on every 4 years to appease the increasingly restless masses.
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@Double_R
Democracy is about the people’s right to choose their own leaders. 
So give people more choices and invite more people to debate in the presidential election.  If you only have 2 options on a Resturant menu, then don’t be surprised when that Resturant goes out of buisiness.

Government doesn’t have to please; it just needs power and if it can be done with, “lesser of 2 evils”, then so be it.
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@TheUnderdog
It’s not the candidate’s job to give people more choices. In fact that’s kind of an absurd framing - no one “gives” people choices. People get to choose from those who decide to run. If not enough people are running that’s not the candidate’s fault. If others are running and are not getting traction from the public that’s not the other candidates fault.

If enough people were interested in RFK he would have been on that debate stage. He wasn’t because they aren’t.
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@Greyparrot
So maybe stop worshipping oligarchic propaganda? 
You talk about propaganda while all you do is repeat it.

Let me know when you have a coherent argument to contribute.
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@Double_R
If enough people were interested in RFK he would have been on that debate stage. He wasn’t because they aren’t.
The reason a lot of people who would normally vote for RFK haven't is because they are worried about the, "throwing away their vote" that can be argued to happen in a system without rank choice voting.


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@Double_R
You talk about propaganda while all you do is repeat it.

Lol, I don't repeat the lies you repeat from billionaire propaganda. Massive projection bro.
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Lol, I don't repeat the lies you repeat from billionaire propaganda. Massive projection bro.
Name one lie I’ve repeated that you are willing to stand by and argue as opposed to your silly throw away one liners you are famous for.
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That stupid ass "bleach" lie MSM propaganda gets you to parrot with flashy chirons.

You also parroted the "Fine people" MSM lie as well.