What is wrong with what this guy did?

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Bestiality is degenerate and funny, but jailing doesn't make sense.  We kill animals for food and nobody complains about how animals can't consent to being slaughtered.  The harsh truth is killing animals for food is not needed for our survival because all nutrients can be obtained through plants.  It's a reality people don't like, but it's the truth.

Leave the issue up to the states.
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ADOL has a thread up about this subject and he is pretty well versed in debating all the points. You may want to tag him to get a well thought out opinion
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I find it funny that people who tortured, killed, ate, eradicated, castrated and ran over billions of animals can at the same time pretend to care about animal's consent and think that they have some moral ground there.

As I said before, only about 1% of people in this world are actually sentient, the rest are retards.
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I'm vegan, so I could in theory claim to care about animal consent.  But I think meat eating should be legal, so I apply that to beastiality.
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I heard you got a good case against this.  What is it?
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I think that the general consensus amongst vegans, is that eating meat should be illegal.

I doubt your vegan sincerity.

So if you want to fuck a pig just do it quietly and in private.

Out of sight is out of mind as someone said.

Certainly wouldn't need to bother with the vasectomy.
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I think that the general consensus amongst vegans, is that eating meat should be illegal.

I doubt your vegan sincerity.
I'm pragmatic; 97% of the US population isn't vegan; you can't prosecute 97% of the population.

So if you want to fuck a pig just do it quietly and in private.
I don't want to, but I'm a liberty guy, so I think people should be allowed to do victimless degenerate things.

Certainly wouldn't need to bother with the vasectomy.
True, but I'm not sexually attracted to animals.  I only want to have sex with hot and adult women (that I'm married too).
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How many do you intend to marry?
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I would like to marry multiple women at the same time; but I'm fine with 1 if she won't let me do polygamy.

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ADOL has a thread up about this subject and he is pretty well versed in debating all the points. You may want to tag him to get a well thought out opinion
I logged back in because of Trump apparently getting shot or something, but you have to have priorities :p

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We will figure out the details and he was already leading but he just won. 

The symbolism is incredible. Moments after a shot hitting him or grazing him, fists pumping in the air, blood pouring over his face with the flag in the background.  

I don't see the left as patriotic but if this was Biden I would switch my vote in a heart beat. 
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#1, Kyle Kulinski is the guy whose disinformation you repeated and refuse to retract to this day despite being shown the EXACT bill that was falsely claimed to target illegal immigrants. If he said the sky was blue, and you repeated it; I would walk outside to make sure.


Bestiality is degenerate and funny
Pretty sure I've already gone over your definition of "degenerate" and you basically admitted it was just another term for something you didn't like.


but jailing doesn't make sense.  We kill animals for food and nobody complains about how animals can't consent to being slaughtered.  The harsh truth is killing animals for food is not needed for our survival because all nutrients can be obtained through plants.
Harsh after tasting bacon I guess.

It is good argument but made by someone who has written many false accusations of hypocrisy.

To play devil's advocate there is the claim that sex is torture and killing for the sake of eating isn't. It's a suffering based model that appalls when applied to humans. Almost no one can explain their ethics in relation to humans or non-humans. I am merely pointing out that in some twisted floating (unsupported) ethical structure it's alright to kill and eat someone if they didn't see it coming or feel much pain, but if they did feel pain then it's bad.

Not much to do but ignore people who haven't a clue why they believe what they believe.


Leave the issue up to the states.
Somehow federalism is invoked?


I heard you got a good case against this.  What is it?
I watched the video (ugh) and it gets worse. It's you referencing Kyle Kulinski who is referencing the SPCA.

This isn't just hearsay, it's like hearsay^42.

Now he's talking about genocide in Gaza, which he knows all about because Hamas told him.

Hamas and SPCA, truly the beacons of honesty in our age.

"There are still a number of people defending the Israeli genocide in Gaza"
Uh... suggesting that there might not be a genocide is not defending genocide Kyle...

4:06 "You're in some forum that has all people who love bestiality and you guys promise you're going to meet up somewhere"

Pretty much, nobody was meeting with that guy though.

"It almost looks like it was a booming business"
That is extremely unlikely, I wouldn't be surprised if there was no business at all.

"How widespread is this bestiality thing bro?"
2% is a good guess, so hundreds of thousands in every state and country of any size. 99.5% of them don't think 'hey, I wonder if there is a wondering lunatic with a school bus of animals'

To state the obvious the number and type of animals the SPCA named can't live on a school bus. It would be animal cruelty just to try and keep them in that confined a space for more than rare trips.

"West Virginia has no laws against bestiality" - Yea but consider yourself a Trump in Manhattan. They'll find something.

"On what planet does the person say 'I like those cheeks too, YES'" - This one, I've seen it. It's also this planet where people dress like clowns, twerk in public parades, and then get angry if children aren't allowed to look at them while they simulate sexual encounters.

To me suggesting that reproductive organs are arousing is pretty conservative by comparison, but I have a need for objectivity and most people gauge weirdness not by objective relevance but by social norms.

Talks about Epstein, Epstein was not running a pedophile ring, he was using barely underage people he groomed (for control and efficacy) to blackmail non-pedophiles with the threat of being exposed as pedophiles.

At first it was just outrage at the clearly immoral actions of Epstein but every year since the public perception has strayed farther and farther from the facts culminating in Qanon.

Is it ok if we condemn Epstein for using threats and blackmail to rape and control underage girls so that he could use them to entrap rich powerful old men so he could blackmail those men? Do we have to invent a pedophile illuminati to make it significant?

"Is this part of a network of 5000 bestiality busses"

Nope, this is probably one idiotic zoosexual who got a fantastic deal on a school bus and pimped out zero animals. As for this distributing to underage, the level of idiocy required to knowingly do that is almost beyond comprehension;  I'd say there is a 4/5 chance that the minor solicited the stuff online without submitting his/her birth certificate. Everyone reading this knows what I mean, you go to a porn site and you put your age in a date picker and that's the end of it. You can  say you're an immortal vampire from 1630 if you want, the sever don't care.

I guess I let Wylted down, nothing clever or profound to say. I blame the source material, no intellectual questions or assertions were made.