Who is really ruining schools. Is it conservatives and their 10 commandments?

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Some say that Christians conservatives are ruining schools by having them place rules in the classroom such as the folow rules

1. Do not murder
2. Do not steal
3. Do not worship statues

Some say telling children not to murder or steal is harming them and pushing Christian values on the kids. 

However all over the country you do have a push in a different and I would conclude more disturbing direction. 

The governor of Oregan has stated that non white kids are too stupid to compete in math and reading. She has written into law that since minorities are too stupid to learn algebra and read high-school level material, that no longer will schools have math and English standards and that you may graduate without knowing either https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2021/08/gov-kate-brown-signed-a-law-to-allow-oregon-students-to-graduate-without-proving-they-can-write-or-do-math-she-doesnt-want-to-talk-about-it.html

I remind you that the people claiming conservatives are ruining schools by posting rules against murder, rape and theft are the same people saying that schools should drop math and English standards because black kids are basically retarded.
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As a comservative Christian teacher what is your take on people thinking rules like "do not murder" being in schools is bad but that lowering standards on black kids because they are too stupid to meet standards is good?
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Dept. of Education and NEA union operate under Scientology. (fake science) such as eugenics and intelligence based on skin color.
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I am genetically superior to perhaps everyone I come across and I happen to be white. This isn't true for most whites though
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Good question. Perhaps liberalism.

That has succeeded in removing God, prayer and child reprimanding and strict physical discipline in at least some avenues.
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@Wylted

Surely it's possible to believe both of the following:

1. Religious symbols have no place in public school unless it is advertised by individual religious students or staff (a kid wearing a cross is fine; a public school having a cross publicly displayed isn't).
2. In order to graduate school, you need to be able to do reading and math.

Like, it's called common sense and not being a partisan hack.
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Like
, it's called common sense and not being a partisan hack.

Aren't you voting for biden in an election where if the democrats win you will see America become a one party state like Venezuela or North Korea?

Sure it may take a generation or 2 to get to that level but honestly the republican party will never be competitive again if Trump loses, meaning what you see with one party rule in Chicago is going to be on a national scale
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 Aren't you voting for biden in an election where if the democrats win you will see America become a one party state like Venezuela or North Korea?
I’m voting for Biden, but America won’t become a one party state if Biden wins.  America is more likely to become a one party state if Trump wins.  Even in states like California, NY, TX, and WY, they are not one party states because other politicians from the minority party are allowed to run and debate the majority party.

but honestly the republican party will never be competitive again if Trump loses
Then find a way to become competitive again.  Let’s say there are 2 companies; Company A and Company B.  They both sell sneakers and more and more people prefer company A.  What does company B have to do to set at competitive to company A?  They have to adapt to the new market.

The GOP needs to adapt to the new free market of voters if they become unelectable.  Maybe they ditch Trump and focus on nuclear energy and banning abortion.  Maybe they leave behind the undocuphobic rhetoric and focus on expanding gun rights.

We have had elections with Reagan and FDR that were blowout elections.  What did the losing party do?  They modified their strategy.

And unless you work for company B, then why would you care if they go out of business?  There would still be other competitors to company A.  If company A becomes a monopoly, then they break up into dividing factions.  In Puerto Rico, the 2 main parties there are left wing; but one of them supports Statehood and the other wants to remain a US territory.

If the Democrats get pretty much every senate and electoral seat in the near future, then they will develop disagreement.  Some Democrats would be pro Israel; others would be pro Palestine; some would be pro Ukraine; others would be isolationist (I can see many Republicans opting to become pro Israel democrats to be more marketable).

I would assume you wouldn’t mind voting for a Pro Israel democrat (the right loves Pro Israel democrats like John Fettermann).  Maybe the Republicans become libetarian and keep many of their positions but get rid of others.  Maybe you have 8 or so political parties and you do rank choice voting to figure out which party wins power.
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Even in states like California, NY, TX, and WY, they are not one party states because other politicians from the minority party are allowed to run and debate the majority party.

So only one party can win but it is not a one party situation. LoL okay


Then find a way to become competitive again. Let’s say there are 2 companies; Company A and Company B. They both sell sneakers and more and more people prefer company A. What does company B have to do to set at competitive to company A? They have to adapt to the new market.

You are literally watching democrats lock up opponents, censor free speech (until musk stepped in) and manipulate the public conscious through almost monopoly control of the media, and you think that's how it will play out?

No they have captured, media, education, social media, the state apparatus and the courts, and have show they are willing to use it for unfair gains but as soon as they have zero accountability than they will do the right thing and bot do what leftists have Done throughout history.  Okay buddy

We have had elections with Reagan and FDR that were blowout elections. What did the losing party do? They modified their strategy.

FdR came very close to becoming a dictator . I wouldn't use that example. It's why medley butler was sent to stop him but turned on the liberators.  Fortunately smedley butler being a traitor did bring light to a real resistance and FDR opted out of becoming dictator. 

I would assume you wouldn’t mind voting for a Pro Israel democrat (the right loves Pro Israel democrats like John Fettermann

John Fetterman seems to be calling out some of the stupidity on the left like open border policies and complete gun bans. This type of Democrat will no longer exist and will be pushed out of the party if Trump loses. 

You are right that when the left has a massive majority they may split but I is unlikely or if they do split than the focus will be on superficial issues while there is agreement on policies that harm us.

The choice is simple this election cycle. You either want to turn America into Venezuela or you want to make America great again
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So only one party can win but it is not a one party situation. LoL okay
Vermont: Very left wing state (about as left wing as California).  Has a Republican governor.  Why?  He gives the left a lot of what they want.  Concede some issues to the left that will get more left wingers to back you than right wingers who wouldn’t vote for you because of the thing you said and the republicans become more electable.

You are literally watching democrats lock up opponents
Nobody wants Larry Elder, Greg Abbott, Ron DeSantis, or Vivek Ramaswamy to be locked up.  Nobody wanted to lock up George Bush when he won in 2000.  Nobody went after Rommney.  They are only targeting Trump because they think he did some horribly illegal stuff.  I don’t even know if Trump did; I just trust the juries in this situation because I know Trump’s prosecution and defense will both approve of the jury (and I’m consistent; I trust the jury with Kyle Rittenhouse and Andrew Tate and OJ Simpson).

censor free speech
If Big Tech wanted to censor free speech, then Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder would have never became famous (because they would have been censored before they could claim Big Tech censored them).  Why would Big Tech want to censor the party that wants to cut Big Tech’s taxes anyway?

FdR came very close to becoming a dictator.
How?

John Fetterman seems to be calling out some of the stupidity on the left like open border policies and complete gun bans. This type of Democrat will no longer exist and will be pushed out of the party if Trump loses.
Then he becomes a pro Israel democrat; and many republicans would convert to being pro Israel democrats.  Israel btw has very left wing abortion laws.

The choice is simple this election cycle. You either want to turn America into Venezuela or you want to make America great again
The way to Make America Great Again is by getting rid of Trump.  Venezuela btw has very right wing laws on abortion; so I’m not sure you want to be calling it a leftist shithole.
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So is your claim that Venezuelas abortion policies are why they can't afford to eat?
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No; their socialism is probably the reason.

California is feasibly going to be won only by democrats for the foreseeable future.  The people of California can eat just fine.  Same with DC.

To claim California and DC are the same as Venezuela is loony.
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California is feasibly going to be won only by democrats for the foreseeable future. The people of California can eat just fine. Same with DC.
California is a shit hole. They have ridiculous housing prices, high crime particularly from Gangs and areas like skid row, which just don't exist in republican areas. You really have to bend over backwards to defend being a voter who is inclined to feminine styles of thinking . Just be logical bro
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California is a shit hole.
Every state has some shitholes,, whether it's a hood or a trailer park.

You really have to bend over backwards to defend being a voter who is inclined to feminine styles of thinking .
Define, "feminine style of thinking".  Because many actual women vote conservative and many actual men vote liberal.  There is a slight correlation (I think 56% of women vote left compared to 50% of men), but also like 90% of blacks vote left.  If, "feminine style of thinking" is code for, "democrat voting", then I can say the same thing about "black style of thinking".

Just be logical bro
I try to be.  This means some of my beliefs are on the left and others are on the right.
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Every state has some shitholes,, whether it's a hood or a trailer park.
Okay, but this is like saying North Korea is a nice place to live because all countries have some political corruption. 

Use logic bro

"feminine style of thinking" is code for, "democrat voting", then I can say the same thing about "black style of thinking

Black men have been feminized due to a lot of liberal programming but they are waking up from it, which is why they are voting for more right wing candidates than in years prior.

Essentially feminine thinking leans on empathy and is incapable of logic. For example a female would solve homelessness with homeless shelters and soup kitchens, while a masculine thinker would create economic policies to allow holding jobs, acquiring jobs and having affordable housing is prioritized. 

You can see this with how Trumps policies created economic prosperity between 2016 and 2020 and see how we are all struggling to pay bills after 2020. 

It's actually a difference of what works and what feels good to do. 

I try to be. This means some of my beliefs are on the left and others are on the right.
WELL, you are literally choosing between a leftist and a moderate and choosing the leftist so I am not sure what good half of your positions being on the left are, if you are voting for a country that goes to the left at high speed instead of the side that keeps both sides competitive.  
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Okay, but this is like saying North Korea is a nice place to live because all countries have some political corruption. 

Use logic bro
Some people are fleeing California (a lot of this is due to the drought there) but it's not nearly enough to call it a shithole.  There would be virtuallly no rich people in CA if it was a shithole.

1700 Capitol Ave - Google Maps.  This looks pretty nice.

So do these places:


These are random images on google maps.

They look much better than:


Black men have been feminized due to a lot of liberal programming but they are waking up from it, which is why they are voting for more right wing candidates than in years prior.
They are still very left wing.  We will see what happens.

 For example a female would solve homelessness with homeless shelters and soup kitchens, while a masculine thinker would create economic policies to allow holding jobs, acquiring jobs and having affordable housing is prioritized. 
So a universal jobs guarantee?

You can see this with how Trumps policies created economic prosperity between 2016 and 2020 and see how we are all struggling to pay bills after 2020. 
The stock market has been going up under Trump and Biden by comparable amounts per year.

WELL, you are literally choosing between a leftist and a moderate
Biden is more moderate than Trump, although moderate is a subjective term.  In Canada, moderate there is far left here.

 if you are voting for a country that goes to the left at high speed instead of the side that keeps both sides competitive.  
Biden is not doing runaway leftism; Trump on the other hand seems to be doing runaway rightism; with things like Project 2025.

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This is Pyongyang North Korea


so is this


so is this


So a universal jobs guarantee?
Um no, you are back to thinking like a girl. Just an economy where people can work if they want to but maybe not if they can't prevent themselves from being a shit employee

The stock market has been going up under Trump and Biden by comparable amounts per year.

As nice as it is that Boomers have a bigger portfolio, some of us would like to be able to pay rent and buy food, like we could do with Trump in office.

iden is more moderate than Trump, although moderate is a subjective term.  In Canada, moderate there is far left here.
Maybe before he became a empty husk and became beholden to leftist interests.

Biden is not doing runaway leftism; Trump on the other hand seems to be doing runaway rightism; with things like Project 2025.
I have literally linked you to the project 2025 web page. It is a heritage foundation project which has policy proposals like creating American Energy dominance which can be found in chapter 12 in their playbook. The literally publicly list the playbook they are using here https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

There is not a single page in their 920 page playbook that says they want to ban porn. Trump implemented 75% of their policies in 2016, and you just didn't see crazy shit like porn bans. You got suckered by somebody into believing it when you can literally read their plaaybook I linked and here are their contacts to personally ask them if they want to do shit like ban porn.

You can also e-mail them at [email protected]

They have been very responsive but I am ineligible to help them personally because I disagree with them on to many issue, though I applied



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Very small % of people who live in CA (or TX) want to leave vs NK.

Just an economy where people can work if they want to but maybe not if they can't prevent themselves from being a shit employee
If they can't prevent themselves from being a shit employee, then what is your solution?  If it's to let them starve, then believe that, but don't act like you want to get them out of poverty; you don't.

Um no, you are back to thinking like a girl. 
I would say Valley girls tend to have this, "get a job" mentality while they are unwilling to due to having rich parents.

As nice as it is that Boomers have a bigger portfolio, some of us would like to be able to pay rent and buy food, like we could do with Trump in office.
Regulating the price of food and shelter is a left wing idea.

Maybe before he became a empty husk and became beholden to leftist interests.
The Soc Dems hate Biden.  I watch their pages; I know what they think even if sometimes I don't.

I have literally linked you to the project 2025 web page. It is a heritage foundation project which has policy proposals like creating American Energy dominance which can be found in chapter 12 in their playbook. 
I support nuclear energy, so credit where it's due.  But there are absolutely horrible ideas in there that I have said and cited.

Trump implemented 75% of their policies in 2016
Project 2025 didn't exist in 2016.

They have been very responsive but I am ineligible to help them personally because I disagree with them on to many issue, though I applied
I would disagree with them more than you would, so I don't think they would respond to my stuff either.
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Project 2025 didn't exist in 2016.
Oh my God, the foundations that project 2025 is trying to implement is from the heritage foundations mandates which were around in 2016.

Project 2025 is about placing people around the president who will promote the mandates that he already followed 75$ of in 2016. I linked to the mandates they are referring to in my last post.

If they can't prevent themselves from being a shit employee, then what is your solution? 
Then they starve or mooch off of people. As long as they have the opportunity is what matters.

Regulating the price of food and shelter is a left wing idea.
You do not regulate them to lower costs. Jesus christ you are dense

The Soc Dems hate Biden. I watch their pages; I know what they think even if sometimes I don't.
Yeah they would hate Stalin, it is called the purity spiral. They still need to be catered to for democrats to win elections

I support nuclear energy, so credit where it's due. But there are absolutely horrible ideas in there that I have said and cited
The ones you cited were lies. I linked you to the policy mandates so tell me what page the porn ban is on, and tell me how long it took you to read all 900 pages


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Then they starve or mooch off of people. As long as they have the opportunity is what matters.
It's fine to advocate that, but don't act like you want to help poor people; you don't.  The only way you want to reduce the poverty rate is by letting poor people die (and this is protected under the 1st amendment).  But don't act like you care about poor people; you don't, so don't act like you have their interests at heart; you have the globlaist's interests at heart.

You do not regulate them to lower costs.
Price ceilings on foods reduce their costs and the demand for food is perfectly inelastic.

High food prices are a result of capitalism.  Now, I'm fine with that; but the MAGA socialists aren't.

They still need to be catered to for democrats to win elections
Biden hasn't done too much leftist catering.

I linked you to the policy mandates so tell me what page the porn ban is on, and tell me how long it took you to read all 900 pages
I'm not reading 900 pages.  I CTRL+F'd the quote I needed.  You are just too dense and too much of a partisan hack to call the republicans wrong.  You'd rather go after Jewish people.
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The only way you want to reduce the poverty rate is by letting poor people die
Venezuela does a  lot to help poor people through subsidies communism etc. But we have a ton of poverty and death there.

Poland does very little for the poor and just focuses on building a great economy so it's easy to find jobs etc. Because of that they have less poor and starving. Same with Japan. 

So I understand that you fell for the scam that literally just giving the poor free money helps them, but the statistics don't agree.

Price ceilings on foods reduce their costs and the demand for food is perfectly inelastic.
This is factually incorrect. What happens with things like food price caps is you get businesses unable to afford to make food so they go out of business or you get underground markets or you get the government stepping in to provide food and you end up like Venezuela. This is economics 101

Biden hasn't done too much leftist catering.
Oh no, the zionist who is now threatening to reduce resources to Israel, the guy who openly shows support for the defund police movement, the guy literally inviting trannies to the white house to expose their tit's is definitely jot beholden to leftists at all. He can totally win an election and ignore their needs.

I'm not reading 900 pages. I CTRL+F'd the quote I needed. You are just too dense and too much of a partisan hack to call the republicans wrong. You'd rather go after Jewish people.
NOpe, you literally never provided me a quote from that document, but it is all pretty standard stuff and does not call for a ban on porn. I am glad you admitted to judging it without reading it. Atleast I read the communist manifesto before I called it retarded
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Venezuela does a  lot to help poor people through subsidies communism etc. But we have a ton of poverty and death there.
What about Norway?

Poland does very little for the poor and just focuses on building a great economy so it's easy to find jobs etc.
But when I talk about making more government jobs, you don't agree with it.

What happens with things like food price caps is you get businesses unable to afford to make food so they go out of business or you get underground markets or you get the government stepping in to provide food and you end up like Venezuela.
So then if this is true, then why would food be expensive to begin with?  Yeah, the fed shouldn't be doing inflation, but you can't blame any POTUS for that because the federal reserve board members  can't get fired by the POTUS.

 the zionist who is now threatening to reduce resources to Israel, the guy who openly shows support for the defund police movement
This isn't Biden; I think some funding should be taken from the police and have it fund self defense classes so Americans can protect themselves instead of relying on the government (aka police).  Defunding Israel is putting America first just as much as defunding Ukraine (I agree with both).

the guy literally inviting trannies to the white house to expose their tit's is definitely jot beholden to leftists at all. 
To be fair, that actually is pandering.

NOpe, you literally never provided me a quote from that document

Here is the quote:

Pornography should be outlawed.

I am glad you admitted to judging it without reading it. 
I read enough oof it, just not 900 pages because that to me is pointless.
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What about Norway?
They are very high up on the economic freedom index, so same thing.

But when I talk about making more government jobs, you don't agree with it.
Because it is retarded. Just let the private sector handle it. Maybe we could add jobs in some government areas though.

So then if this is true, then why would food be expensive to begin with?

I would advise you to look at countries that went hard on subsidizing foods and what g happens. It's typically bread lines. In Germany they tried to combat it on the back end, and it ended up with the German Mark becoming worthless and even wider poverty.


Here is the quote:

Pornography should be outlawed.

What page is it on? Honestly though I don't think Trump would ban it LOL, but if the cost of saving America is you can't look at other dudes penises on the internet, it's worth it.
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They are very high up on the economic freedom index, so same thing.
Alright; so lets copy Norway and have capitalism with universal healthcare and free college.

Because it is retarded. Just let the private sector handle it. Maybe we could add jobs in some government areas though.
You think building more lanes on congested state roads and highways is retarted?  There are several roads in my area that I think need an extra lane and unless you are from a small town, the same is true for you.  We need more lanes on many of the roads.  We also could hire a bunch of people to build the tallest building in the world; steal the title from the UAE.  That would be putting American first and actually making America 1st.

What page is it on? 
5.  You can CTRL+F "Pornography should be outlawed" if you need to to make it easier.  Here is the link:


but if the cost of saving America is you can't look at other dudes penises on the internet, it's worth it.
If it wasn't for that part of the bill, it would be loud republican that did Jan 6 vs quiet democrat that might be having dementia issues, but in terms of policy, neither would change much.  Our country would still get trillions of extra dollars deeper in debt.  But I don't nut to dude's dicks online.

I think the majority of guys watch porn; so I also think banning porn would cause an increase in rape rates and premarital sex (which leads to a lot of unplanned pregnancies and abortions and STI transmissions).  From a freedom and a pragmatic standpoint, it makes sense to legalize porn.

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Alright; so lets copy Norway and have capitalism with universal healthcare and free college.
The economic freedom index measures how Laissez Faire a country is. The higher rankings generally have a better standard of living than the lower rankings.  I am not sure how decreasing our ranking on the economic freedom.index would get us that higher quality of living correlation we are after. 

You think building more lanes on congested state roads and highways is retarted?  
That's done by private contractors

We also could hire a bunch of people to build the tallest building in the world; steal the title from the UAE. That would be putting American first and actually making America 1st.
Not really, generally you want to do things where the benefits outweigh the harms


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I noticed you had to use that document as opposed to the 900 page document with the policies more clearly outlined. I am going to share the phrase now that I am on a computer and can hit control f

Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender
ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot
inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual
liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its
purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product
is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime.
Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should
be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed
as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that
facilitate its spread should be shuttered.

So you really are okay with the left censoring things but if the right wants to censor one thing, a thing that has zero percent chance of actually happening you will literally destroy the country by voting the wrong way?

I know, I know, you claim the left can not censor things because they like less taxes, I guess you aren't intelligent enough to know that market share is more important than tax rate and by creating a tax rate that destroys competitors they increase market share. Let me just list people who were deplatformed off the top of my head

1. Alex Jones
2. Andrew Tate
3.  Jordan Boyde
4. The Babylon Bee
5. President Trump


This is off the top of my head. They are now emboldened by how succesful that was and have launched lawfare against conservative politicians and personalities like

1. Andrew Tate
2. Alex Jones
3. Donald Trump
4. Steve Bannon
5. Rudy Giuliani
6. Bryan Kohlberger

Once they realize how succesful the lawfare was, I can't even imagine how they escalate now.
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 I am not sure how decreasing our ranking on the economic freedom.index would get us that higher quality of living correlation we are after. 
You just said Norway has a high amount of economic freedom and they have UHC.  So lets have our ranking be the same as Norway's.  All Norway policies; copy them 100%.  Then our ranking would be the same as Norway's.

Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender
ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot
inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual
liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its
purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product
is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime.
Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should
be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed
as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that
facilitate its spread should be shuttered.
Here, they justify the porn ban with a bunch of stuff that may or may not be true.  But they still believe in banning porn.  You may have an argument you really think is good for defending murder, but if you are defending murder, then your argument inherently isn't good no matter how you try and dress it up.  Same thing for a porn ban (I'd rather ban porn than legalize murder, but the same point still applies).

So you really are okay with the left censoring things but if the right wants to censor one thing
Nope; I'm against censorship no matter who does it.  If I have a kid and I'm a public figure, someone can say something bad about my 5 year old son and I would tell my son to grow a thick skin.  That's how much I believe in free speech; I let people talk trash about my kids to my face.

 I guess you aren't intelligent enough to know that market share is more important than tax rate and by creating a tax rate that destroys competitors they increase market share.
So are you saying capitalism creates censorship?  Then it looks like you will have to pick between free market capitalism and free speech.

Let me just list people who were deplatformed off the top of my head

1. Alex Jones
2. Andrew Tate
3.  Jordan Boyde
4. The Babylon Bee
5. President Trump
None of these people should be censored, but if it's profitable for Big Tech to censor them, then they will do so in the name of capitalism and making a profit.  Lazzaire faire Capitalism or free speech; pick one; at this moment they are contradictory.
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Lazzaire faire Capitalism or free speech; pick one; at this moment they are contradictory
I think we are getting to the point we can't talk, because I have to believe you are a very disingenuous person or you are honestly too stupid to know that the FBI pressured social media companies to censor the hunter laptop story.

He'll even if you are unaware of that, you can't really be too stupid to believe that a culture that promotes free speech and capitalism cannot live side by side.

You just said Norway has a high amount of economic freedom and they have UHC. So lets have our ranking be the same as Norway's. All Norway policies; copy them 100%. Then our ranking would be the same as Norway's.
Universal healthcare is bad mmkay and swapping all of our policies for there's would result in less regulation overall so you would oppose it anyway. 

Read the following article to figure out why anybody advocating for socialized medicine is either evil or a brainwashed idiot.


It literally shows how more people will die under socialized medicine. I hope you aren't the type of person who wants more people to die