ANTI-ZIONISM ≠ ANTI-SEMITISM

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Debate: Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism
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before the debate, the audience polled at 59% against the resolution

after the debate, the audience polled at 76% against the resolution
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Pro Israel idiots cant seem to make up their mind.

Either stealing land is wrong, thus Israel is wrong...

Either stealing land is fine, thus supporting Palestine to steal all land from Israel is fine, as well as supporting anyone to steal anyone's land anywhere.

So yeah, this is one of those win-win arguments which my brain comes up with from time to time.

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Pro Israel idiots cant seem to make up their mind.
i think this has more to do with the idea of an "ethno-state"

at its core, it seems like "zionism" is the belief that "jews" (blurring the lines between ethnic and religious) deserve special privileges in israel

rendering it a quasi-theocratic state
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A Zedku for Harry Hill.


Land cannot be stolen.

Land is inhabited by more or less clever/stupid people.

Same old, same old.

My flag is black, red, green and white.

Your flag is blue and white.

Which flag is best?

Only one way to decide.

FIGHT!!!!!!!



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Saying anti Zionism is anti semetism is like saying being anti BLM is benign anti black people.

It’s all strawmaning.
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From what I have observed, it is really all a matter of how one frames the definition of Zionism. If one defines anti-Zionism as “I am highly critical of how Israel’s leadership treats and has treated Palestinians,” then one will probably have the upper hand in that debate, or it will merely be a debate involving clashing definitions. If one must abide by the definition as “I don’t believe the Jewish people should have their own homeland,” then all bets are off (other than for the Zionist, of course).
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i think this has more to do with the idea of an "ethno-state"

at its core, it seems like "zionism" is the belief that "jews" (blurring the lines between ethnic and religious) deserve special privileges in israel

rendering it a quasi-theocratic state
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i think this has more to do with the idea of an "ethno-state"
What is “this” referring to? If “this” refers to the debate you posted, then you will have to show the clock times where this is clarified by the people who won the debate.

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noun: Zionism
  1. a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.

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a Jewish nation
with special status and privileges for ethnic and or religious jews

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If you hate Biden, then you hate Americans.

If you hate Gavin Newsom, then you hate Californian strangers you've never met.

If you hate Zionism, then you hate a bunch of Jewish strangers.

Makes total sense.