Pie Recycled Roles Mafia Endgame

Sucks that this game didn’t go on longer. Austin basically hard threw the game since the beginning. Mafia had a good half an hour to an hour before I began DP1 to ask the me the questions for the games. It was clear from the previous game that claiming your game was going to be SOP. Mafia for some reason did not utilize this early on. Still, there were reasonable fake claims to use in 13RW like Visitor, Bleeder, Virgin, even Messenger. You could’ve even gone with Miller, but it had to be early on. Austin messed up with the Miller claim, and town rightfully punished him for it. SOP is SOP, period. You can’t go in the middle of the DP and yolo Miller.

What also sucked was that Austin claimed the game JoeBob was from, which was a rookie mistake. JoeBob just went with it, which sucked. For all the noobs, it’s okay if you let your experiences scum partner take the lead, but you should not be afraid to push back and sanity check the plans. You knew that you were going to have to claim your game, but neither of you even prepared for it, which sucked. US Governors had a decent number of fake claims: Tracker, Miller, Purifier. Here are potential fake claims from the games that weren’t in this game

Severe miscalculation by Austin though, which sucked because he was doing fine. The mistake was switching the games around and trying to cover for JoeBob. Props to JoeBob for not conceding the game after DP1. I definitely would’ve, but he still tried knowing that it was a losing cause. He tried with the White Mage, but Moozer was the Doctor anyways, so he would’ve been CCed. 

The moral of this game is that as scum, you need to be prepared and think through everything town could do to unmask you. Furthermore, you need to sanity check all the possible consequences of any strategy you want to pursue in the game. A little more thought would’ve gone a long way. Communicate with your partner; that’s the main advantage you have against the town.

On the town side, major props to Savant. He was the steady presence after the Miller claim from Austin. Wylted had JoeBob and Austin early on in the game from a behavioral perspective, so props to him as well. Savant did an excellent job leading town as the unCCed cop. Austin almost pulled his way out with Luna’s help, but wasn’t unable to convince Savant and WF, which was crucial. You guys know me—I would’ve crucified the Miller immediately especially with the amount of time remaining.

I thought the balance was fair, but cant really determine it because the game ended in 2 DPs. Feel free to let me know what you all think about the balance. My gut says it’s a bit townsided, but could be swingy and help scum as well so. All in all, GGs!

Moozer - You are Speedrace’s character/role from Narcos Mafia - Tu eres Pablo Escobar - Tienes mucha influencia en la ciudad de Medellín porque eres el líder del cártel de Medellín. Con esta posición, tienes el poder de salvar las vidas de sus sicarios o matarles. Por esa razón es él Doctor. Cade noche puedes salvar una person, no si mismo. Ganas con el Pueblo.


Lunatic - You are Greyparrot’s character/role from Ancient Roman Battles Mafia - Battle of Actium - You are the battle that sealed the fate of the Roman Republic. Prior to this engagement the Second Triumvirate was formed between Gaius Octavius, Marcus Lepidus, and Marcus Antonius. The middle was largely irrelevant given the territories of Africa while the former held with the West and latter the East. They say love with a woman is the worse thing that could happen, and that was the case. Antony fell in love with Cleopatra creating a propaganda campaign for Octavius to help take sole control of Rome. His friend and loyal general Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa commanded his ships at Actium against the combined armada of Antony and Cleopatra. After Cleopatra’s ships broke through the blockade of Agrippa, rather than turning back and helping the rest of the fleet, she fled to Egypt. Eventually Antony and Cleopatra both committed suicide leaving Octavius to be the sole ruler and eventually the 1st Emperor of the new Roman Empire controlling everything in the Roman Domain. You are the 1x Magistrate. One night you may arrest a player. This will make that person unable to vote and unable to be voted for during the next day. This effect will be publicly announced at the start of the next day. You win with the Town.


Whiteflame - You are Lunatic’s character/role from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Mafia - Bombs - Found inside Dodongo’s Cavern, your utility ranges far and wide. Also known as the Goron Special Crop, your use is required to complete the Fire Temple and save all the Gorons that Volvagia was supposed to kill. For some reason you hate enemies that dance and false doors too, but that doesn’t compare to helping Link protect the Goron race. You are the AVENGER. Each night you may visit another player. If that player dies the night you visit them, you will receive a gun to use that night. You win with the Town.

Austin - You are BearMan’s character/role from 13 Reasons Why Mafia - You are Justin Foley. The number of times you said “are you ok” to Clay and then never followed up was kinda upsetting. But you look after your loved ones whether it be Clay or your mother who is a drug addict. You know what’s going and care for people; your death was a tragedy but know that you were a good person. You are the 2x Mafia Lookout. Each night you may choose another player. You will receive a report of all the players that visited your target. You win with the Mafia.

Endgame

Endgame

Yeah Joebob you should have CCed him and got some town cred. 

Yeah… that went about as wrong for scum as it possibly could. I dragged out DP1 a bit because I wanted to see what Austin could come up with in response. What can I say? I liked watching him squirm.

As for JoeBob… yeah, that sucks dude. I think your only choice was to CC Austin’s game immediately, and absent that, you were always going to be scumread on his flip. Generally bad strategy to tie yourself too closely to your scum partner and this was inescapable the moment you guys decided to claim each other’s games. It gave you a brief out when we noticed there wasn’t a Mafia RB in your game, but wasn’t worth the cost.

true. for the past two times I’ve been scum I’ve just blindly followed what my scum partner told me to do without second thought. im gonna try not to do that anymore.

To be fair, it almost worked for us.

10/10 post

This is tempting to do if you can't seem to control the scum team or lead it in any way, but sometimes you just have to be okay with your scum partner being annoyed by you

GGs. Yeah my argument for Austin is that he doesn’t make mistakes like that as scum, obviously was wrong on that. Guess he is a human being too. It just seemed wierd for Austin to make a mistake like that as a scum because he has a track record of dominating as scum, so that’s why I didn’t buy that he was scum 

Austin has yet to get on discord or DART so I would like to hear his thoughts when he’s on

Baffled me too, Luna, but I couldn’t find a way to square him being town after that. Just didn’t make sense anymore. Also, get out of my head!

At least all my town reads were correct lol. Had joebob and earth in the Poe. Earths was more just blatant activity but I did mention joebobs reads list sounded almost like he didn’t catch up and got cliff notes from a scum buddy. I wanted to press him on that. I actually wrote up a post on my phone to interrogate him but I was on a road trip and lost service before I could post it and never got around to interrogating him for it again when I had service again later

Didn't you town read Austin?

Yeah I played this one really horrifically. Was distracted by family stuff on the first few days of the DP (hence me accidentally claiming the wrong game, sorry Joebob for that), and I didn't really think my Miller claim through. Sorry to town for this, I promise I won't always make the game this easy ^_^

nope, that was just my shitty attempt at reads

Yeah I'm sorry. I messed up badly and you deserved to have modded a better game. I still think the Miller claim had potential but probably not on this particular site's meta.

I’m probably most responsible for that haha

Also, hope this is a lesson that good players do dumb things occasionally as well, and that nothing should ever be considered out of a person's scumrange.

Now I'm a bit annoyed because my backup plan was to claim Tracker and watch Savant while letting Joebob carry out the other stuff. I think that could have worked out pretty well (since Moozer would be a very plausible tracking target). Maybe it would have made endgame, maybe it wouldn't. Either way, better than that ill-conceived gambit attempt I tried lol

That was my first win on this site and it felt too easy. Oh well, a win is a win I guess. I hope the next game will be a little better. 

Are you running CoC next?

I was planning to start a signup for player's choice mafia today. If Luna wants to go first, I'm fine with that.

What are the choices

players choice? That sounds fun

Sign me up for whoever goes first

1. OG DART Players Mafia (traditional game, themed around DART mafia players who played in the old days)

2. Somewhat Bastard Mafia (non-traditional game, bastard but fun mechanics such as messing with voting)

3. UPick Mafia (semi-traditional game, players send in literally anything [e.g. "Don Corleone", "the concept of being wrong", "335"] and I make a role from it)