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Edit:

I’d actually put earth also in slight scum just due to a lack of activity, but the same could be said about me too.

Also, I’m not saying we should do this, but just to put it out there, VTNL is an option. I figure someone should at least mention it each game.
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I’d actually put earth also in slight scum just due to a lack of activity, but the same could be said about me too.
Earth is usually inactive, but we should still take it into consideration.
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@Moozer325
Savant: Not super scummy or anything, but is somehow always giving me a not incredibly town vibe. So far, if I had to lynch anyone right now it would be him
Because lynching an un-cc'd cop somehow makes sense...
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@Savant
Like I said, I still have some reading to catch up on. These are just behavioral reads, and they don’t mean anything really.
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@Moozer325
I largely agree with Moozer's thoughts, with the one caveat that I'm not going to lynch Savant this DP unless their cop claim gets cc'ed. For now, most players are a null read for me. 
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@Moozer325
As a general rule, it’s best to post reads after you catch up. Saying that you’d effectively consider Savant to be your top scumread after he claimed Cop stands out, especially since it came a while after he claimed.
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@whiteflame
As a general rule, it’s best to post reads after you catch up. Saying that you’d effectively consider Savant to be your top scumread after he claimed Cop stands out, especially since it came a while after he claimed.
I actually disagree a bit with this imo - I think posting reads as you catch up is one of the best ways to let other players read you. Scum have the burden of too much information, which can sometimes show in an unnatural read progression.
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@AustinL0926
I think giving insights into how you see certain behaviors as you’re going through the DP is fine - it’s a way of addressing the DP as it has progressed rather than in its totality and it can uncover things others haven’t mentioned.

I think posting a full set of reads that happens to exclude a very relevant piece of information, and then responding to that piece of information being presented to you with “I’m still catching up,” doesn’t quite work the same way.
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@Savant
Because lynching an un-cc'd cop somehow makes sense...
He never mentioned lynching you, WTF? 

What is going on here
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Weird shit like Savant is doing bothers me because I want to really analyze it.

Savant if you could explain your thought process on why you want to respond to somebody thinking you are scummy in that way than please do. 
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@WyIted
I did say he was my number one lynch target, but obviously not anymore.
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@WyIted
He said "if I had to lynch anyone right now it would be [Savant]"
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I remember why I sometimes need a break from this place now.


Best Korea has a thread up defending child born, not as a thought experiment but because he thinks it's funny.

Maybe me doing similar debates and thinking no topic is off limits if you take it seriously made people think this shit was okay.

The Underdog is asking why we tear down elementary schools after 22 kids are slaughtered in them, like there is zero sense of empathy for the teachers that work there, the students who have to drive by the school, the siblings who have to walk down the same halls. 

Mall is making new threads with zero content. Just kind of like "what do you guys think of abortion"

Roosevelt who is too stupid to think about actual policies so he starts 20 threads a day being like "see republican did bad thing I guess that means border security is a bad ideal" or whatever his retard logic is.

Thank God RM is gone. I saw the last thread where he was commenting and the idiot really thinks that somebody is breaking the law by being edgy or that the CIA will spy on him for being on the same website as edgy people. 

This place is entirely morally bankrupt and I am going to blame the mods here. 

It's fucking awesome that we finally got the free speech part down. It needs to be tempered with maybe removing privileges of some idiots from starting threads ever again until they can be grown ups. That's the least that can be done
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@WyIted
See, this is why I had you down as “???”. I don’t mind hearing your opinions that much, but we’re also trying to play mafia too.
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@Savant
He said "if I had to lynch anyone right now it would be [Savant]"
Okay, my advise is to look for scum. At some point I will be mislynched this game. The only time I am not lynched is when I am scum. When that happens I want to leave town with my reads and I generate those easier by hunting scum than by being defensive. 

I know it is fun to stay in the game, but it's more important to help out your team to the best of your ability
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@Moozer325
That's fine I will try to stay on topic but it's harder to mention those issues outside of mafia unless I take it to PM and I also thought it would make the game a bit more enjoyable to witness some light trolling. However it does seem to annoy you so I think it's out of my system now
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Nah, it's fine. It just throws off all my behavioral reads, which I guess could be a strategy?
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@WyIted
I also thought it would make the game a bit more enjoyable to witness some light trolling. 
every game we troll, but not so it interferes with scum hunting. Last game me and Barney and a couple other people used emojis only for the most part.
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@Moozer325
Nah, it's fine. It just throws off all my behavioral reads, which I guess could be a strategy?
The thing is to look.at the game related posts. Are the game related posts fluff? If there are no game related posts it could also mean I am trying to artificially simulate being active. 

The non game related posts will be the same either way. The behavioral reads should come from the rest. 
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@Savant
What do you think of Austin's behavior. The posts that have nothing to do with you, just in general? 
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@WyIted
The posts that have nothing to do with you, just in general?
Largely null, maybe slight town actually. I might've been overreacting to being accused, so I will Unvote
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@Savant
I am fairly certain he is scum. If he is scum, then I think lunatic is most likely town. 

I might break down my reasoning later. It has substantially more evidence than my suspicions you, but knowing these people they won't buy my logic so writing it out is pointless. 

I guess I could do it and maybe it will teach new players some new scum hunting techniques but I have like 3 strong indicators and some of the indicators repeat.
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@Lunatic
Is there any reason why Austin would respect you more than anyone else here? 

Is he intimidated by you for some reason that you can sense?

Like maybe he perceives you as socially dominant or he thinks of you as a God of mafia and that is why he would be really worried about you?
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@WyIted
I am fairly certain he is scum.
I agree with this. I unvoted because I was going to investigate Austin and didn't want scum framing him. But if you're onboard with this, it increases my suspicions. I wouldn't be OMGUSing him if I didn't think he was a very good player. He's almost never been wrong with accusations before in my experience, so yeah, if it looks like he was breadcrumbing an accusation against me, and I'm not scum, that looks suspicious.
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@Savant
I have different reasoning but I don't want to explain it yet because if I do it might not be presented great and my poor explanation of it could make the reasoning look worse than it is. 
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If you're willing to stick your neck out to accuse Austin (which imo matters more than the reasoning itself), I'm fine with lynching him this day phase. But I'd like to hear from others (and Austin) before I vote.
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@Savant
I am fine with it at this point but I do actually want to provide a "case" because I want this accusation to stick. It won't be a vote for more information but a vote for..........DEATH. 
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@Savant
Honestly, I'm not convinced.

Early in the DP, Austin comes off as having a similar but distinct perspective to Luna's. There might have been some buddying going on there, but he made some distinctions that I wouldn't have  expected from scum. His pushing on you later in the DP seemed largely reasonable to me, even if statements like:

"Savant, in your own words, can you take a guess on why I'm scumreading you for that comment?"

were a little more prompting than I'd like. It's almost trying too hard to yield a specific reaction, but it's also not what I'd expect from scum Austin based on what I've seen of him. His responses to you since don't strike me as particularly stand-out either. Like I said earlier, I've had some experience seeing Austin antagonize someone in an effort to push a given perspective. Maybe if we'd gotten a little more time to see that play out before you claimed, I could have seen some evidence of that, but in the absence of that, he looks null to me.


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@whiteflame
I wouldn't say I'm "convinced" Austin is guilty either, but I've got as much reason to suspect him of being scum as anyone else, if not more. Who would you rather put on the chopping block, if it was up to you?