ACTUAL problems in my country that exist

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I find it pretty laughable that Western Media don't focus on the actual things that trouble us.

  • The Gaokao is inhumane, and so is the Zhongkao. Zhongkao is kinda like Gaokao Jr., where you take it at the end of 9th grade. It is considered to be even more important in a student's life, especially in resource-lacking provinces such as mine (which is why I decided to go to an international department of an HS, do AP courses and go to the US for college). In extreme cases, only less than 50% of Zhongkao takers are eligible for any high school at all. Rest of them either has to go to a technical training school (where because most people there are neither academically accomplished nor morally well-behaved, rendered them virtually useless in society and looked down upon throughout the entire society) or even worse, has to start working at or even under minimum wage. But, if you go to a regular high school, it is another prison for 3 years, you are just not sentenced to community service. This creates social divide, and nobody has fun.
  • Colleges in China have barely any campus culture. Well, maybe except for those toppy top ones like Tsinghua. Most people are simply too burned out from Gaokao to strive for actual greatness in college. In fact, the admissions system is broken: you decide for the major AFTER gaokao which transpired about 5 days ago, and annually. I applied to US universities so I know how important it is to have a major in mind at least by the start of senior year(this is already as late as it should be humanly possible). Result? Prefroshes don't know what they actually like to study and go into fields that make money without loving the field. Another reason why they slack.
  • They push the 3-child subsidy even through PSA advertisements on streaming websites despite nearly nobody wanting to because rent is so high it would be unsustainable for the average family to start 3 kids.
  • Socialist ideological education isn't being done well enough. They fit a set of information so expansive in one semester that nothing is being explained clearly enough from the average teacher to the average student. Thus, many people's understanding of socialism even after graduating college stalls at "china good, socialism good, marx good, america bad" and some disconnected buzzwords picked on the night before the finals. Most college students agree that this class is taught like crap and complain about it. There is someone who is basically Wylted's idea of me, times 200, teaching this course, named Dr. Ai Yuejin(He literally made fake stories about Chairman Mao), and he was actually considered to be an above average professor at this field! Crazy.
  • Job culture is toxic. Not only is the working hours not regulated enough, competition is so extreme that people with a Masters are applying for menial jobs and people with just a Bachelor's are jobless because of that. Many people are inclined to get a Masters of a Doctorate just to get a job rather than out of the pleasure of learning. 
  • Nepotism runs rampant. A PI scolded his grad students because he trusted them to help with his daughter's project in a middle school competition and did not win. Soon it was discovered that a lot of the projects there were done due to nepotism. This was far from the only case.
  • Parents are toxic and make kids no-life all the way until college. Ramifications explained above.
  • Dining ettiquete, where employees must be completely submissive to their bosses to the point there are tutorials on how to effectively overdrink and how to say stuff in a way that pleases your boss. This exists even in the research settings with one's higher ups. Here is a joke here: If Hawking was working in China, he would be demoted for not knowing how to give a toast!
  • Moving holidays around so for every extended break you would get quite a few 6-day workweeks if not 7. This should not be allowed. (Cue Anakin from Ep. 3)
  • The music industry went south quickly in the last 20 years to the point where a small singer from the United States was able to sweep a national level music competition aired on TV.
None of what I said here is slander. All of these are actual issues we actually care about. I am not a bootlicker or a stupid ignorant kid. I just know that if you don't live here, chances are that you don't know what is actually the pressing issues. This was a quick browse from Bilibili, our equivalent of Youtube. If they think it is my problem and even arrest me, well, just pretend I am adding another line to this post. But the point is still the point.

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How many of these do you actually know? Think you know China better than me? Think again, bud.
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What is your view on Kim Jon Un's leadership and on China being the only country to have a mutual defense treaty with North Korea?
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I don’t like that. People in my country also don’t.
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We think that North Korea is a monarchism that pretends it is socialist. We also think the main issue of China is that it isn’t socialist enough. Revisionism is being mocked on an hourly basis.


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Also I find it depreciatingly funny that some of the allegations for Uyghur “human rights violations” aside from actual prisons are just widespread malpractices in the workplaces. Just help all of us, you don’t have to make it racial.

Yes, they consider it a human rights violation when it is one of those sweatshops like literally everywhere else. Yes it ain’t the best working condition but some are actually above-average if anything.

The problem is that they are missing the point and thus revealing themselves as separatists who hate us.
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We think that North Korea is a monarchism that pretends it is socialist. 
Its interesting how you know what billion of Chinese people think without asking them.

But anyway, after you guys sent so many weapons to North Korea, sure, you guys dont like North Korea at all.

Yesh, you dont! Yesh, you dont!

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I have two accounts on Bilibili. I know what people comment about.

Also “we” don’t send the weapons. I don’t work in the military and neither do most people.
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 know what people comment about.
Its actually impossible to read billion comments in a lifetime, let alone in the short time you have been on Earth. Besides, I doubt billion of Chinese commented to you. Well, most of Chinese dont even have internet.

Also “we” don’t send the weapons. I don’t work in the military and neither do most people.
Dont worry. You will provide for the military with taxes.

Also, do you even have elections in China?
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I don’t like that. People in my country also don’t.
Fair enough.

We also think the main issue of China is that it isn’t socialist enough.
I think part of the issue with this, and not just in China, is that if you ask 10 people what socialism means, you will get 20 different answers. You can get progressives to agree that "we need more socialism," but then they will argue over whether x, y, and z is actual socialism. It's probably the Chinese equivalent of an American politician saying "drain the swamp," because no one can agree on who is or isn't a part of the swamp.

 I find it depreciatingly funny that some of the allegations for Uyghur “human rights violations” aside from actual prisons are just widespread malpractices in the workplaces
I think the main concern is that they are being put in actual prisons. There have been allegations of waterboarding, compulsory sterilizations, and forced labor. Whether or not you believe those allegations, they are the reason that the treatment of Uyghurs has come under international scrutiny.
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Sorry, I get a little upset after I masturbate.

But you must understand that I hate China as much as I hate USA.
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How many of these do you actually know? Think you know China better than me? Think again, bud.
About to read through but no. I definitely do not think I know China as well as you do. I definitely have more blind spots than you. I just think I have access to some information you don't,  but obviously my knowledge of China pales in comparison to yours
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Dining ettiquete, where employees must be completely submissive to their bosses to the point there are tutorials on how to effectively overdrink and how to say stuff in a way that pleases your boss. This exists even in the research settings with one's higher ups. Here is a joke here: If Hawking was working in China, he would be demoted for not knowing how to give a toast!

This problem is rampant in most of Asia in general though western countries go too far in the other direction
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PM him. He's earned my respect for posting it at all but if he is concerned about his safety in any way than we can at least mitigate any harm by deleting it before it is up too long. Pretty sure this site is below the radar of the cpc though.
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Also I find it depreciatingly funny that some of the allegations for Uyghur “human rights violations” aside from actual prisons are just widespread malpractices in the workplaces. Just help all of us, you don’t have to make it racial.

I have seen evidence of them forcing uygher women to marry non uygher men to wipe them out slowly, arrests for reading the Quran etc.


However I have seen how Muslims treat non Muslims in predominantly Islamic countries and I do not blame China for mitigating that risk, despite them denying it and despite how abhorrent most westerners find it
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Tsinghua
Hey I recognized a reference. Half of the characters in Three Body hang around Tsinghua.


This exists even in the research settings with one's higher ups. Here is a joke here: If Hawking was working in China, he would be demoted for not knowing how to give a toast!
I would be doomed.


I just know that if you don't live here, chances are that you don't know what is actually the pressing issues.
Most people feel like that, but always some objective facts remain.

Facts like the US constantly bombing a dozen countries at a whim, which rubs some people the wrong way.

Other facts of interest being the 60 million people communism killed through starvation. More if you include the wars caused by socialists in general i.e. the fascists (also socialists) and communists.

Everybody's got their founding myths, but some take a lot of bending over backward to defend.
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Why do you think anyone will care about anyone on a small dead debate website? 
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It's not a free country. There is a type of culture of spying on your neighbor etc. They are unlikely to recognize this site but if his VPN leaks it could cause some issues for him.  I actually shouldn't have prodded him 
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I have seen evidence of them forcing uygher women to marry non uygher men to wipe them out slowly, arrests for reading the Quran etc.
Those evidence come from Adrian Zenz, a sinophobic racist dude who has never been to the so-called "concentration camps". He merely tried to estimate the figure by calling HR centers from abroad and extrapolating data. Also, RFA is a sinophobic agency funded by the US government to talk shit about us.

I genuinely think those "evidence" are just false.

However I have seen how Muslims treat non Muslims in predominantly Islamic countries and I do not blame China for mitigating that risk, despite them denying it and despite how abhorrent most westerners find it
What is wrong with you

PM him. He's earned my respect for posting it at all but if he is concerned about his safety in any way than we can at least mitigate any harm by deleting it before it is up too long. Pretty sure this site is below the radar of the cpc though.
You are concerned about nonexistent issues.
  • The main form of moderation done here is not that they let the cops storm your house once you posted something sensitive. The main form is that an online filter, accompanied with moderators, deletes any post with sensitive topics in them. They will only fine & arrest you if you actively spread lies to the general public even in place of the filter.
  • Most things discussed here are daily matters of complaint on Bilibili and Zhihu and similar platforms used across the country. If they are not outright removing like 15% of all posts in a nationwide platform, I should be fine here. I am not "twisting" narratives unlike Adrian Zenz has been consistently doing for the past decade. I am merely stating stuff that is virtually common across almost all users of internet here and has been restated through tens of thousands of mouths.
  • Also, most of China has internet(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_China). We use our tax for that as well. If anyone is more concerned about tax, I think corruption within the system should be a MUCH BIGGER concern than anything else. Yes, even you Americans. Especially you americans.

@Adreamofliberty Other facts of interest being the 60 million people communism killed through starvation.
I mean, Capitalism probably has killed much more. Look at 1800s India as a singular example. If you are determining to criticise a social system by its kill count then the best form is probably Kakistocracy because it has never killed anyone as it has never been used once.

The actual pressing issue at hand is not China is socialist: It is that it isn't socialist enough. Revisionist tendencies has caused the same type of bureaucracies and corruption to resurface again that cannot be effectively wiped even with dedicated forces. That is what we actually care about.

Not to mention a lot of "socialist" countries are basically not. Like North Korea. Counting those under the extents of socialism is akin to putting the faults of the Irish under the radar of the UK because it used to be a part of the British empire.

This problem is rampant in most of Asia in general though western countries go too far in the other direction
The same direction actually I would fear. Try going to a dinner with JP Morgan officials and you will find that insufferable. It is just by being here, it is overly unnecessarily dining rituals with chinese characteristics. Nothing more really.

Had to give a toast to my grandparents a few years ago. Why do they care that it is I who said it. It is so annoying.

@Savant There have been allegations of waterboarding, compulsory sterilizations, and forced labor.
Adrian Zenz is a joke of a scholar who has never been to the alleged "concentration camps", extrapolated data that is supposed to be serious, and funded agencies to talk shit about it. Don't trust anything out of his filthy mouth.


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I think part of the issue with this, and not just in China, is that if you ask 10 people what socialism means, you will get 20 different answers. You can get progressives to agree that "we need more socialism," but then they will argue over whether x, y, and z is actual socialism.
Unfortunately, that is an issue that I have already talked about in the first post. They aren't teaching it correctly and effectively.
  • Socialist ideological education isn't being done well enough. They fit a set of information so expansive in one semester that nothing is being explained clearly enough from the average teacher to the average student. Thus, many people's understanding of socialism even after graduating college stalls at "china good, socialism good, marx good, america bad" and some disconnected buzzwords picked on the night before the finals. Most college students agree that this class is taught like crap and complain about it.
On top of that, Gov & Politics are not being properly taught in High school either. The most obvious example is an entire semester dedicated to teaching "philosophy" when in reality it is a puddle of rushed muddle where they actually think "there must not be a god" "marx is just right" "materialism is correct, idealism is wrong" and have you write test questions for it. Unless you want to work in the government (actually, that is a pretty popular job as it is stable) then you would probably not like it. There has been way too many criticisms on the obviously logically fallable framework illustrated in that book. 

I find it absolutely funny that asian moms coerce their HS-age kids to engage in infinite toil, and with no life or extracurricular either at this point, to go to school that does not even record the GPA. Honestly, if I have to go through this I will, along with other college students, cram it the night before.
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Its actually impossible to read billion comments in a lifetime, let alone in the short time you have been on Earth. Besides, I doubt billion of Chinese commented to you. Well, most of Chinese dont even have internet.
Not knowing what sampling means definitely discredits you from engaging in valid talk about international affair I would fear.

You have a job. Act like it.

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@Adreamofliberty Other facts of interest being the 60 million people communism killed through starvation.
I mean, Capitalism probably has killed much more. Look at 1800s India as a singular example.
Oh there have been plenty of famines, but none of them have been caused by some kind of "capitalist" delusion. In fact you'll find it almost always has something to do with the disruption of open trade by people with swords (or guns) trying to take over the world or what not.

On the other hand the communists have repeatedly tried to implement Marx's theory and repeatedly directly caused famine by reorganizing the entire food production mechanism and then totally failing.

Communism also doesn't seem to be any kind of medicine for the existence of war either, in fact it seems to cause it more often than economic conflicts of interest.

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Adrian Zenz is a joke of a scholar who has never been to the alleged "concentration camps"
I'd be hard-pressed to think of any time in history where countries with concentration camps allowed any media agency to visit them and report on them accurately first-hand. Zens is also not the only one making allegations, since CHRD and ICJJ have also studied the issue. I'm also not sure why people tend to assume Zens is just one person making things up, since he works with teams of researchers. You would have to discredit every member of the team, not just Zens, and most criticisms of him amount to "Zens criticizes China, therefore we can't trust him when he criticizes China."

I genuinely think those "evidence" are just false.
I suppose a bunch of human rights groups could have all conspired to invent a genocide. (Holocaust deniers would probably back you on that one.) But I would question what human rights abuses you believe China is capable of. What is your view on Tiananmen Square, for example? Or on religious restrictions in Tibet?

The most obvious example is an entire semester dedicated to teaching "philosophy" when in reality it is a puddle of rushed muddle where they actually think "there must not be a god" "marx is just right" "materialism is correct, idealism is wrong" and have you write test questions for it.
I'd definitely question the decision to cite a philosopher from the 19th century instead of teaching actual economics. (Marxism is really not compatible modern economcs.) Other countries have propaganda as well, but it tends to depend on the opinions of the teacher rather than being mandated by the government. Some teachers in the US will rant about socialism being terrible while others will say they love it.

Thus, many people's understanding of socialism even after graduating college stalls at "china good, socialism good, marx good, america bad"
It sounds like convincing people to think that is probably the entire point of the class. I'd caution you not to let schooling interfere with your education.
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I do not blame China for mitigating that risk, despite them denying it and despite how abhorrent most westerners find it
This attitude is going to backfire, you know. China is coming for all religions, not just Islam.
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Not knowing what sampling means definitely discredits you from engaging in valid talk about international affair I would fear.
I know what sampling means, but it seems that you dont, nor you know that sample can be completely different from actual situation especially when it comes to things like online comments.

So you think few comments on the internet correctly represent views of billion of Chinese?

Can you tell us how do you know that it correctly represents views of billion of Chinese, many who dont even have internet?

100 internet comments are 0.00001% of the population, assuming no multi-accounts.

So go ahead now, tell us how you know that 0.00001% correctly represents thoughts of 100%.
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Had to give a toast to my grandparents a few years ago. Why do they care that it is I who said it. It is so annoying.
Because they love you and it means more coming from you, you dick. 
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This attitude is going to backfire, you know. China is coming for all religions, not just Islam.
Christianity can conquer them like it did Rome.  Islam is a huge issue because they lack empathy though
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Adrian Zenz is a joke of a scholar who has never been to the alleged "concentration camps", extrapolated data that is supposed to be serious, and funded agencies to talk shit about it. Don't trust anything out of his filthy mouth.
No critic has been to them other than people who have to report on them anonymously because they would literally be disappeared