Why are the LGBT hated?
Why are there judgments made on the haters as well as non haters?
Finally, how can we extinguish the hate?
Do we copy the method of them pushing to extinguish the LGBT and reverse it, extinguishing them instead?
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Some people have a sensitive ass.
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@Mall
Finally, how can we extinguish the hate?
Dharma (extinguish value i.e. desire and love)
Why did you decide that extinguishing emotions was the goal?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Why did you decide that extinguishing emotions was the goal?
Yeah, sensitive ass is a perfectly valid emotion.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Because like anything else, it's for the ultimate constructive result.
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@Mall
Hate is for the ultimate constructive result. It is meant to destroy threats.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Hate is the result you say so the destruction of threats is what ? The real result so hate wouldn't be the result right, it be a means.
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@Mall
Why are the LGBT hated?
L G B are not hated, just the T. But I wouldn't use the term hate as it really is a misnomer here. T are just despised (scorned).
Why are there judgments made on the haters as well as non haters?
Emotive retorts vs Logical (rational) retorts, respectively.
Finally, how can we extinguish the hate?
You can no more "extinguish" hate than you can racism, stereotypes, generalizations, et al.
Do we copy the method of them pushing to extinguish the LGBT and reverse it, extinguishing them instead?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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@Mall
Hate is perpetuated by formative conditioning.
LGBT are all sub-groups that stray from the old established norms, inevitably causing established data systems to discriminate.
We can also condition data processing units to be tolerant.
So I would suggest that in most instances, "hate" is perhaps not the most appropriate description to apply to discriminatory conclusions.
I would further suggest that technological data systems are rapidly changing how organic systems think, consequently re-establishing norms.
My final suggestion is...New generations of data bases will bring about change rather than older ones.
But don't expect the human device to change at the click of a button.
When you buck the system, try to be different, choose the abnormal, ask for special treatment, you are going to get haters. Fucking rocket science.
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@zedvictor4
Hate is perpetuated by formative conditioning.
Hate is the inverse of love. We hate what we perceive to threaten that which we love.
This is inescapable.
What is escapable is loving the wrong things and being deluded about what truly threatens what. Also if you are a budhist you can try to love nothing but the eternal (and thus unthreatened).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
In my opinion,
Formative conditioning establishes the database.
Stored within, are words and accompanying meaning
(Though it's common to have stored words and not fully understand the intended meaning).
Discrimination and consequent actions are based upon the conditioning of the database.
Love and hate are just descriptive words that we apply liberally.
I love ice cream.
I hate cabbage.
Actually, I consume both ice cream and cabbage, unemotionally.
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@Amber
L G B are not hated, just the T. But I wouldn't use the term hate as it really is a misnomer here. T are just despised (scorned).
Why despise the T?
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@zedvictor4
Then you have achieved food-enlightenment... or perhaps the ice cream in your locale is not very good. I have known people who scream for ice-cream.Actually, I consume both ice cream and cabbage, unemotionally.
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@TheUnderdog
@<<<Amber>>>L G B are not hated, just the T. But I wouldn't use the term hate as it really is a misnomer here. T are just despised (scorned).Why despise the T?
They go against nature, are unstable and unpredictable, influence impressionable young minds to do sick and twisted things to their bodies with HRT and Gender Affirming surgeries. They invade safe spaces of children and adults who are disgusted by them, and automatically go into evasion mode but the normal people will never escape them since the left and democrats are hellbent on forcing tolerance through public scorn, rule of law, and threats of punishment if we don't bend over and take it by all the mad hatter Ts.
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@Amber
L G B are not hated, just the T. But I wouldn't use the term hate as it really is a misnomer here. T are just despised (scorned).Why despise the T?They go against nature
Said the guy smashing buttons made out of polymerized hydrocarbons pumped from the depths of the earth to communicate with light and electricity over thousands of kilometers.
There are only three realms of "nature":
1.) The sterile world, life is unnatural to that world and does unnatural things such as collecting and using energy against the flow of entropy
2.) The world of natural selection, a cruel world where mothers eat their own babies and parasitised creatures die in slow agony for the advantage of others. Philosophy and civilization is unnatural to that world.
3.) The world of the sapient mind, self-aware thought, ethics, metaphysics, ethics, religion, and civilization.
Each arose from the world prior and broke the rules of the more basic world.
We transcend evolution. We decide what is right and wrong.
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@Amber
They go against nature
So do automobiles. Who cares?
are unstable and unpredictable
So is the NVDA's stock. Who cares?
influence impressionable young minds to do sick and twisted things to their bodies with HRT and Gender Affirming surgeries
There is a doctor requirement to get your dick cut off at an early age and if the doctors and parents and the kid agree to do it, then it's parental rights. HRT is reversable and a logical extension of liberty and small government and free market capitalism.
They invade safe spaces of children and adults who are disgusted by them
And what do they do? Read books to the kids? I mean, there was this GOP politician that have called teen girls ripe and fertile and worthy to marry. That's got to be more grooming than reading a book to kids in some weird makeup. This doesn't mean we hate all GOP politicians because one of them is a pedo.
threats of punishment if we don't bend over and take it by all the mad hatter Ts.
What punishment and what do you mean by, "bend over and take it all"?
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@TheUnderdog
This is false.HRT is reversable
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@ADreamOfLiberty
There are people who have de transitioned.
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@TheUnderdog
There are people who have de transitioned.
That's an assertion of identity not a medical state.
Shifting hormones after adulthood does much less permanent damage and original function may be effectively restored, but the same is not true of hormone manipulation during or before puberty (or other key developments).
This is not something special, there are a host of developmental deformities that are caused by hormone imbalance during formative periods.
HRT before puberty is desired because it inhibits the formation of dimorphic tissues, producing a sterile person who can't orgasm and likely has a bunch of other degraded systems such as bad metabolism and unbalanced brain chemistry, might explain why they still kill themselves even faster after getting "what they want".
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You think the person in the link has any of the problems you stated (minus the sterilization; which is true and probably something they consented too)?
Gender surgeries should be legal for anyone that meets at least one of the following criteria:
- At least 16
- On HRT at least 1-2 years
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@TheUnderdog
minus the sterilization; which is true and probably something they consented too
From "reversible" to "well sterilized but they consented"
This is called "moving the goalposts", it is an informal fallacy.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
From "reversible" to "well sterilized but they consented"This is called "moving the goalposts", it is an informal fallacy.
The gender surgery sterilizes you. The HRT I don't think does, especially if you only take it for a small amount of time.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
@<<<Amber>>>L G B are not hated, just the T. But I wouldn't use the term hate as it really is a misnomer here. T are just despised (scorned).Why despise the T?They go against natureSaid the guy smashing buttons made out of polymerized hydrocarbons pumped from the depths of the earth to communicate with light and electricity over thousands of kilometers.
I'm not a guy.
There are only three realms of "nature":1.) The sterile world, life is unnatural to that world and does unnatural things such as collecting and using energy against the flow of entropy2.) The world of natural selection, a cruel world where mothers eat their own babies and parasitised creatures die in slow agony for the advantage of others. Philosophy and civilization is unnatural to that world.3.) The world of the sapient mind, self-aware thought, ethics, metaphysics, ethics, religion, and civilization.Each arose from the world prior and broke the rules of the more basic world.We transcend evolution. We decide what is right and wrong.
Neither of those are/is the "nature" I spoke of. I would have expected someone as intelligent as you to know/understand I meant human nature. What Mother Nature (or for the religious, God) intended for humanity and its proliferation (evolution, survival) - i.e., reproduction.
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@TheUnderdog
@<<<Amber>>>They go against natureSo do automobiles. Who cares?
Fallacious comparison.
are unstable and unpredictableSo is the NVDA's stock. Who cares?
Fallacious comparison.
influence impressionable young minds to do sick and twisted things to their bodies with HRT and Gender Affirming surgeriesThere is a doctor requirement to get your dick cut off at an early age and if the doctors and parents and the kid agree to do it, then it's parental rights. HRT is reversable and a logical extension of liberty and small government and free market capitalism.
Munchausen Syndrome =/= parental rights.
HRT is NOT reversable. JFC, you are really ignorant of this subject and the permanent damage it causes to children and young adults, and adults as well.
HRT has nothing to do with liberty, small government and/or a free-market capitalist state. HRT is being used and abused at the expense of human lives.
They invade safe spaces of children and adults who are disgusted by themAnd what do they do? Read books to the kids? I mean, there was this GOP politician that have called teen girls ripe and fertile and worthy to marry. That's got to be more grooming than reading a book to kids in some weird makeup. This doesn't mean we hate all GOP politicians because one of them is a pedo.
Rape children in school bathrooms.
Violently attack and seriously maim other students.
Go on mass shooting sprees in schools.
Cause serious bodily harm in sports.
The list is long.
Comparing what I said to GOP politicians is asinine and fallacious.
threats of punishment if we don't bend over and take it by all the mad hatter Ts.What punishment and what do you mean by, "bend over and take it all"?
Wow. I am removing you from my friends list. Why even send one? You are too undereducated for my tastes. Bye.
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@TheUnderdog
From "reversible" to "well sterilized but they consented"This is called "moving the goalposts", it is an informal fallacy.The gender surgery sterilizes you. The HRT I don't think does, especially if you only take it for a small amount of time.
HRT does sterilize, not if you only take it for a short amount of time or after puberty; but then that's now how they use it.
This isn't a shot of tequila to know what it tastes like. It's alcoholism or nothing. There is no point in their eyes in short and ineffective doses.
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@Amber
They go against natureSaid the guy smashing buttons made out of polymerized hydrocarbons pumped from the depths of the earth to communicate with light and electricity over thousands of kilometers.I'm not a guy.
I'll keep your gender in mind in the future.
Neither of those are/is the "nature" I spoke of. I would have expected someone as intelligent as you to know/understand I meant human nature. What Mother Nature (or for the religious, God) intended for humanity and its proliferation (evolution, survival) - i.e., reproduction.
Let he (or she) who has devoted their life to maximum reproduction cast the first stone.
Let me ask some diagnostic questions:
If people could reproduce with artificial wombs "freeing" them to mutilate the hell out of their genitals and still be able to reproduce, would you have no objection?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
HRT does sterilize, not if you only take it for a short amount of time or after puberty; but then that's now how they use it.
I looked it up and you are correct. This is why I think trans people should store gametes before transition in a hospital freezer if they want kids (which usually, they would rather just adopt, especially transwomen because they see it as nurturing).
@Amber
I'm going to respond even though you blocked me showing how little you actually care about free speech.
Fallacious comparison.
How? Like with both times?
HRT has nothing to do with liberty, small government and/or a free-market capitalist state.
Incorrect, unless you believe liberty, small government and/or a free-market capitalist state are only valid concerns when the right brings them up.
HRT is being used and abused at the expense of human lives.
The trans people being off of HRT would be worse.
Rape children in school bathrooms.Violently attack and seriously maim other students.Go on mass shooting sprees in schools.
All very rare instances, rape and murder should be punished with death, but this is not representative of the majority of trans people.
Cause serious bodily harm in sports.
They should start HRT before 11 or 12 in order for me to be alright with them competing with the cisgender girls.
Comparing what I said to GOP politicians is asinine and fallacious.
You say that so often (and you will say it of any left wing argument), so I will let the right wing woke mob be triggered.
Wow. I am removing you from my friends list. Why even send one?
I send them to everyone I meet. But I got 127 friends and you got 4, so it shows how irrelevant you are on this site.
You are too undereducated for my tastes. Bye.
I'm almost done with my bachlor's degree (2 classes left) and you have an associates degree. You can't preach to me about lack of education. Also, college educated people tend to vote left, so the educated people are more likely to agree with me. But this is where you move the goalposts and call education, "indoctrination". It's only indoctrination when the left does it. Got it.
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@TheUnderdog
But I got 127 friends and you got 4, so it shows how irrelevant you are on this site.
I'm almost done with my bachlor's degree (2 classes left) and you have an associates degree.
Maximum cringe achieved. You have my pity.