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The left is clearly divided over this issue. 
Biden can't straddle the fence this time.
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Well, Israel should be pressured to stop killing so much civilians, but we already know that every US president (both Trump and Biden) support Jews and the question about Israel isnt even a subject of disagreement.
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This is a Biden problem though.

The people on both sides of this issues on college campuses were never going to vote for Trump under any circumstance, but Biden is assuring many on both sides and also ensuring many will sit it out because Biden refuses to take a side and make a stand.
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and by that he clearly means nazis and antisemites. Fair is fair.
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This is a Biden problem though
Yeah, but its not like Biden will turn against Israel, even if it costs him election.

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Didn't Trump say the same before and yet he got lambasted by the Legacy Lying Media over it claiming he was some bigoted Nazi white supremacist???
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Biden can't straddle the fence this time.
Well, he can, but not without chafing his sack.

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This is a Biden problem though.

Are you saying Palestinian women and children deserve to die by the thousands or are you saying the Jews killed and held hostage deserved it?

Which is it? Which side are you on? As usual, you refuse to take a position . You  sit in the peanut gallery jeering with no substance to offer.

Biden never said “there are good people on both sides” As usual you are lying.
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It's good IWRA is back. He asks a pointed question of our so called president.

Just remember the rules, nuance and context are not permitted, ignore any clarifications, insist upon the most offensive interpretation possible and mock anyone who suggests there might be others.
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 at least you admit he said it. You just think there was nothing wrong with it.

some in Trump’s cabinet, Gary Cohn, eventually resigned because of what he said, serving for little more than a year.
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ADOL,

GP is the one suggesting this issue lacks nuance, genius .

I mock people who say stupid things and lie.
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Yes, when you have even the WAPO crowd questioning the tactic of trying to embrace both sides and offending neither...it makes you an objectively weak leader.

Biden is his own worst enemy here. Roundly mocked by the WAPO crowd as a "stupid with no substance to offer."
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Just remember the rules, ...
Even without the new and revised rules, Biden is toast here. Neither side of the conflicted Democrat is happy about his non-committal stance.

Extrapolating the worst doesn't make it all that much worse for Biden. If we took the most permissive interpretation of the new rules, you could make the case that he condemned both sides, (since he used the word "condemned" and context magic would be arduous to wield here)... effectively Biden called all those Democrats the equivalent of "deplorable"
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The main problem is that Sharia Law is extremely Right Wing but Ntanyahu's wing of Israel is also extremely right wing knucklehead conservative.

So, for the left wing, both societies are quite disgusting to actually side with. Nobody on the left is admitting it because they wrongly hold the idea that all cultures are equally good and valuable to the world.

What is clear is they loathe both sides, I do as well at this point  and I notice the repressed 'cannot admit it' opinion my fellow leftwing thinkers hold. They just want neither side to get what it wants and did the whole time. They want(ed) Hamas to lose but to remain as a functioning terrorist organisation that may eventually free Palestine. They also want(ed) Israel to remain in peace but to not genocide 10s of millions of Gazans and make months of sheer terror and hell, making them worse terrorists.

Thus, there is a clear aim of the Left; achieve a surefire long term peaceful defeat for both sides ASAP. This has and always will be how to understand the Left's contradictory approach. Even I am supporting the approach now.
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Well stated.

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The main problem is that Sharia Law is extremely Right Wing
Dont worry, because thanks to media effort and activists, every society is becoming more gay and it loses more traditional values in favor of being modern.

In 50 years, right wing wont even exist in the form it exists today.

Just compare USA today to USA 50 years ago.

It changed a lot, and lost a lot of values it once had.

Left wing just needs to take control of education and all future generations will have gay ideology planted in them.
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People wrongly fuse right wing economics with conservative social values. I am unsure why. I know socially conservative leftwing thinkers and everyone knows of right wing Libertarians.

Sharia is both Conservatives and very Capitalist.
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Well there are good people on both side. I don’t see a problem.
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It's only a problem for Democrats.
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Oh that’s right, because you only post stuff that’s bad for democrats.
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Well there are good people on both side. I don’t see a problem.
Here is the problem:



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It's not a problem for non-Democrats.

There's nothing inherently bad about being polarized and only seeing good things on only one side or the other. It's just bad for Biden in this particular situation.
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Just remember the rules, nuance and context are not permitted
So nuance and context do matter? Good to know.
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Republicans are no better off on the Israel issue.

Speaker Mike Johnson was booed when he visited the campus today.


As Johnson wrapped up, the students renewed their boos and began to chant, “Mike, you suck!”