The secular view of mankind is there are those that are good people.
The religious side of things particularly biblically based, all people are sinners, no good.
Which system do you accept that makes you comfortable and feel good about yourself?
Secularism view of man vs. the religious view.
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It's ironic because you would expect the people who think we are made in the image of God to have a sugar coated view of how humans are but actually our perfect God supposedly made us to all be filthy pieces of shit.
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@FishChaser
That's because Earth is Minecraft for God. And trolling is the new meta.
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@Savant
You're on to something here.
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@FishChaser
What is the purpose of knowledge?
Everything or none.
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@Mall
The secular view of mankind is there are those that are good people.The religious side of things particularly biblically based, all people are sinners, no good.Which system do you accept that makes you comfortable and feel good about yourself?
I am pretty sure there are thousands of billions of good people - those who were never born so never did anything bad.
Now, if you are going after born people who are adults, I am quite certain they are all bad, and I dont see how is that supposed to make me feel comfortable or feel good.
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@Best.Korea
The unborn are not good. The unborn don't exist.
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@Mall
I dont think you need to exist in order to be good.
In fact, so far the condition to be evil was to exist.
In the secularist system, we're all good if we're not a Hitler, Bundy and Dahmer.
In the religious sector, we're all in the same boat.
Some may even or have turned on religion because the thought of any one of these individuals going to heaven is sickening.
Not to mention anyone of their victims going to hell.
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@Best.Korea
You do have to exist because without existing at all , the reality of good doesn't exist either.
This is a common error you go into . You often take the stance because a lack of one thing exists, therefore it automatically means the other.
It's not as thin as you make it. Just because I was found not guilty or a lack thereof to place a guilty charge doesn't automatically make me innocent.
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@Mall
In the religious sector, we're all in the same boat.
Thats not true.
If religious people thought everyone was equally bad, entire population would be in prison or no one would be in prison.
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@Mall
You do have to exist because without existing at all , the reality of good doesn't exist either.
Thats not true.
You can be not existing and still be good.
In fact, not existing is usually a condition to be good.
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@Best.Korea
Well first I'm speaking in biblical terms. According to the bible, we're all sinners. Not just folks who went or go to prison.
Second, people who are not in prison haven't broken man's law but have broken those of the religious sector.
Gotta wrap your head around this.
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@Best.Korea
What is your definition of good ?
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@Mall
What is your definition of good ?
Not causing evil.
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@Mall
Secularisms is the separation of organised religion and state.
Instead of secularism it should be humanism. Though neither are necessarily dichotomies to religion. Also it can’t hurt to be more specific about the religion(s) you’re referring to.
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@Best.Korea
Right your definition is very broad. Run into problems with that.
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@Reece101
You said organised religion which I take as organized religion.
So there's no such thing as a separation of religion and state which I agree with. No such thing as separation of church (religion) and state.
But you said organized religion so whatever that is , fine.
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@Reece101
"Also it can’t hurt to be more specific about the religion(s) you’re referring to. "
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@Best.Korea
Well first I'm speaking in biblical terms. According to the bible, we're all sinners. "
It's quite obvious that people will resonate with what they consider is the true law. The secular man to the law (the constitution) and the believers to the commandments.