The Assassination of John F Kennedy - a new forensic take based on FACTS

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History as led the American people to believe a particular narrative since his murder.

But there is a NEW "forensic" evaluation of ALL the historical records prior to his murder, during the assassination, and after that tells an entirely different narrative. 



I am currently watching the new forensic documentary on Amazon Prime (during a free 30 day trial), and wow. What really happens is...shocking. 
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It was Lyndon Johnson who is known to have told his campaign staff they must be willing to do ANYTHING to win the presidency. 

Tell me the documentary says Johnson otherwise i am not sure I should waste my time.
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Also you post a lot about movies. When are you going to get to your Lady Ballers review?

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He was shot.

He died.

Time marched on.

Still making documentaries.

Such is human necessity.

I suppose.
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JFK was the president of the most powerful country of the world, Victor. I think people deserve to know why he was murdered.

There are many concerns about the existence of a deep state that rule the US, so this case should help.
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Someone didn't like him.


You call it deep state, which is what I might refer to as establishment.

A sort of evolution of time established social hierarchy.

You either run with it, or worry about it.


I expect we will have another documentary soon about the death of Princess Diana.

Serves a purpose I suppose.
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LBJ def coordinated with CIA to do this. Prob struck a deal with the Mob in the process
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I have not seen lady ballers. No need to. The preview was great, pretty funny, but it looks too ridiculous to enjoy. Like watching an episode of Beavis and Butthead. 
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I think it's essentially a modern remake of ladybugs. I haven't seen it either. I am currently watching a documentary series called the program which is painful to watch. 
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Wow. This documentary is mind blowing. 

It demonstrates so clearly that the alleged assassination of JFK was an elaborate hoax. If you watch it with an open mind, listen to the main expert analyzing the Zapruder film, and all other film & photos thereafter involving others (eg - Ruby, Tippet, Oswald, etc.).

I don't want to give any spoilers, but I highly recommend you watch it if you truly want to know the far more plausible truth about what happened in Dealy Plaza that day. 
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Just finished it. Wow! My mind is blown. 

Everything covered to the very end, the relationships, the ties to the mob, the affairs, the Adison's Disease JFK was afflicted with, it all makes perfect sense. Sad he wanted to go out that way rather than doing the honorable thing and just resigning, but...it is what is and its history now. 
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 I am currently watching a documentary series called the program which is painful to watch. 
The football related one?

Hmm...please start a new topic if it is interest others should take in to discuss. 

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Someone didn't like him.


You call it deep state, which is what I might refer to as establishment.

A sort of evolution of time established social hierarchy.

You either run with it, or worry about it.
So, you don't mind living a live where a handful of greedy people takes advantage of us? 

If you think about it, it's been the story of religions because it's pure manipulation and control. Now it's the story of the richest that control us through the media and propaganda.

I expect we will have another documentary soon about the death of Princess Diana.

Serves a purpose I suppose.
That is a good one. Princess Diana was an annoyance for the brit royalty.

What do you know of it, Victor? Do you think the queen had to do with her murder?
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Or did she just die in a car accident, whilst being pursued by the paparazzi.

Not that I'm particularly interested.


Material evolution and consequently social evolution relative to the evolution of the intellectual species, is such that all is potentially available to all..

Though what is actually achievable for the individual, depends upon the capability of the individual.


My suggestion is, to find a niche that suits ones capabilities and be content.

I certainly do not feel that I am being taken advantage of.

Though to be fair, British society isn't Russian society.


Do you think that the "greedy people" are ever content?

Maintaining wealth and power does not necessarily foster peace of mind.
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My suggestion is, to find a niche that suits ones capabilities and be content.
Yeah, that is what people should persue in their lives, but human beings are very complicated. 

I think it's a matter of genetics. I see people craving for money, and when they get all the money they want, they go for the power, usually a political position because that way they can get more money by changing the law.

I think it's not their fault, this is the way they were born, it's in their genes. For this reason I've always suggested genetic selection so to improve the human being biology. And for that we have to fuck off all the religious people that think it's not right because it's all the opposite, it would be excellent to evolve.

Although the aliens that are looking over our progress wouldn't agree because they are in charge of this evolutionary project. Lol. 
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Yep.

Good stuff.

I think that species evolution is all about genetic selection, and is a process that will inevitably involve human manipulation.


Though the jury is still out on the aliens.

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 The aliens that are looking over our progress probably think that humans are just bugs.
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 The aliens that are looking over our progress probably think that humans are just bugs.
Are you interested in the aliens, FLRW? Since when? :)

Well, it is said that in the ancient times they saw humans as children. Now they see us as teenagers so I guess there has been an improvement.

Believe it or not, humans are very important for them because our DNA has a lot of potential, not like theirs. That explains the multiple abductions done by some alien civilizations, with the due permission of course. They don't do it anymore because it caused a lot of traumas in some people so it's been forbidden.

I think I already said this, the aliens that seeded the human beings in the earth are stuck in their evolutionary process, so some higher-ranking aliens helped them create a new race that would fix their problem. If the human project succeds that would serve for the rest of alien races that need a push in their evolution, including the alien races that are in dispute with the aliens that are looking over us.
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LBJ def coordinated with CIA to do this. Prob struck a deal with the Mob in the process
After conducting some 25,000 interviews and running down tens of thousands of investigative leads, the FBI found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

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After conducting some 25,000 interviews and running down tens of thousands of investigative leads, the FBI found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

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I think it's a matter of genetics. I see people craving for money, and when they get all the money they want, they go for the power,

And then they want to be "gods." and probably are seen as gods in some peoples eyes.  
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Hypothetically reasonable proposition.


It's also reasonable to propose that we are the most intelligent universal species.

Or the only intelligent universal species.


Perhaps I should say, intelligent organic species.


You haven't factored A.I. into your proposition.
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Or the only intelligent universal species.
That is totally ruled out, Victor. A simple propabilty analysis will tell you that this is impossible. 

You haven't factored A.I. into your proposition.
Human beings are biological AIs, the only difference is that we have consciousness.

I'm still trying to understand what consciousness is, though this is seemingly what ancient people in asian phylosophies called the soul. I don’t see it as something mystic or religious, it's very likely a technology of a different nature.
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And then they want to be "gods." and probably are seen as gods in some peoples eyes.  
This is definitely the nature of human beings which is not so different to the aliens that were taken as "Gods" in the past.

Life beyond the earth is not that different to our planet. You'll see aliens fighting one another for resources and power. As I once told you, "as above so below". There might be benevolent aliens as there are benevolent humans but we have to be careful anyway because everyone has their price.

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 "as above so below".

On Earth as it is in Heaven, D.
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After conducting some 25,000 interviews and running down tens of thousands of investigative leads, the FBI found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
Do we get a thumbs up for the research?

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Do we get a thumbs up for the research?
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Do we get a thumbs up for the research?

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Consciuosness, is the ability to respond to incoming signals.

And you cannot rule some thing out unless it can be ruled out.

Probability is only a statistical assumption.


We might be the only intelligent species...Occurring for a purpose. (GOD principle).

Or, the only intelligent species occurring for no reason

But on the other hand, we might be one of millions of species for absolutely no reason.

Or, one of millions occurring for a purpose.


And for sure, is there any difference between artificial and natural.

I tend to run with the idea that, everything that occurs is naturally occurring.


So, to sum up:

We don't know.
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Consciuosness, is the ability to respond to incoming signals.
I think you're describing a computer, Victor

Conciousness is awareness of being alive. Computers can't do that.

I prefer to think from all what I've read that consciouness is pure mind and the rest is the creation of such consciouness. It sounds very philosophical but it resonates with me a lot because it makes sense.

But on the other hand, we might be one of millions of species for absolutely no reason.
Contrary to what religions claim, I think the purpose of this fucking life is just to experience what we create as consciousness and evolve or make improvements according to what we experience. It's what we do in this life if you didn't note it.

I like to think of it as a game devoloper that develops a game from scratch and his game evolves gaining speed, quality and realism to the point that the game doesn't need any more improvements because it attained the perfection, it became a God game.

The consciousness just want to create and experience what it creates. This is its nature, our nature. Don't you think it makes sense?