Why ramaswamy and Tucker will not be the VP and who definitely will be

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I have been reading a lot of Roger stone's writings lately.  Watching his interviews. This not merely because he has contributed to the cause of freedom than any man alive. It is because he is a master strategist and I was hoping to pick up on his political strategies. 

Trump listens to this guy but not nearly enough. It's the reason why the January 6 plot to save the country failed. 

Anyway he has 2 strategic principles he helps repu lican candidates utilize. He has many more butthis thread is about these 2 principles. 

1. The VP pick should be somebody who isn't going to harm your campaign. 

This is why people Roger stone consults with usually have boring VP picks. 

2. Do whatever you can to expand your base without pissing off your current base enough to get them to not vote for you.

Tucker Carlson and Vivek Ramaswamy both violate rule number one and neither of the 2 will expand Trump's base. 

There is a prevalent myth that DeSantis voters won't be as excited to vote for trump but I can tell you that when I was in Florida there were already a lot of desantis/trump 24 hats and shirts. DeSantis will probably not harm Trump in Amy way with his actions but he also is unlikely to expand his base. 

In one interview that Trump had he exposed his shortlist of VP picks. The one that would I think expand his base a bit without doing anything that will effect trump in an overly negative way  is on the shortlist. 

Trumps comments lately have also been laying the groundwork for this VP pick.

"We have to put party aside. We need to just do what's right for america and follow common sense. We need common sense candidates" basically things along this line. 

This is all to prep everybody to accept Tulsi Gabbard as Trump's VP. She expands the base. She won't say anything overly stupid and she is a fun candidate to watch as well as being anti establishment and keeping an anti establishment message her entire political career. 
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One word. Tulsi.
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It's a shame Tulsi isn't listed on Predictit, but I will still be able to cash in a ton on the easy "no" bets on Noem and Elise.
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Remember lads, policy is irrelevant when the choice is between subversive liars and honest people. Tulsi is acceptable.
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I have been reading a lot of Roger stone's writings lately.  Watching his interviews. This not merely because he has contributed to the cause of freedom than any man alive. It is because he is a master strategist and I was hoping to pick up on his political strategies. 
Stone is a convicted felon.

It's the reason why the January 6 plot to save the country failed.
So you admit it was an insurrection 

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To give up his racism or his misogyny, ohhhh the dilemma
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It's the reason why the January 6 plot to save the country failed.
So you admit it was an insurrection 
You consider a "plot to save the country" insurrection?

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The madman is back
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Don't call it a comeback, he has been here for years.


rockin' his peers, puttin' suckers in fear
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It's a shame Tulsi isn't listed on Predictit, but I will still be able to cash in a ton on the easy "no" bets on Noem and Elise.
I think Tulsi is most likely but I wouldn't  count out Noem. Noem is very attractive ad the camera loves him. . If you can get the mom wines excited to vote it would certainly help

Tucker and ramaswamy are definitely out though. 
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To give up his racism or his misogyny, ohhhh the dilemma
This is a stupid leftist talking point nobody believes because the premises are transparently stupid

1. Trump makes statement that not every immigrant crossing the border illegally has good intentions and even explicitly states that a lot of th people crossing illegally are great people and in the same speech mentioned he wanted to expand on legal immigration so these great people trying to sneak I'm can actually come in legally.

The left's response- "Trump hates hispanics"

Hispanics response "you are pretty cool you can have all of Florida's electoral votes" 

2. Trump talks about how he wants to be tough on crime and improve the economy so that ay blacks have record low unemployment. 

The lefts response- Trump is racist and wants to arrest all black people.






3. Trump says women let him grab them by the pussy. 

Media's response- Trump hates women

Women's response"no it's cool he can grab me by my pussy" 

You guys might have woke blue haired chick's and soyboys believing your nonsense but not the people you ant to believe it. 
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This is a stupid leftist talking point nobody believes because the premises are transparently stupid
Ad hom and gaslighting, wahey double wammy!

Millions believe what I just said, poor Donald has to swallow a real humble pill if he picks a woman or non-Caucasian this time!

Keep typing troll, you're the mad one with the tl;dr rants, not the one you think you're triggering with your blablabla about how Trump is a genius for considering a woman of part Samoan descent over a man of Indian descent.

You say he's a genius because she's bland and won't rock the boat while appearing to fit into a 'hardcore right wing rebel' narrative all at once. I agree, the general Republican support base are so stupid that complete contradiction makes her the perfect candidate for their ethos. Maybe one day they'll pick a woman that speaks her mind, silly old Republicans.
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politics = gas lighting.  Leadership = actions with positive results. 
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Attacking a political talking point = Ad Hom
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Which talking point did I attack?
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Sorry, that was supposed to be in response to RationalMadman saying it was an Ad Hom.
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All examples of gas lighting this thread so far.

"Remember lads, policy is irrelevant when the choice is between subversive liars and honest people. Tulsi is acceptable."

"To give up his racism or his misogyny, ohhhh the dilemma"

"Trump hates hispanics"

 "Trump is racist and wants to arrest all black people."

I am sure there are more and in the links. Politics is gas lighting and fear mongering. I entertain what people say and reject 99.999% of it as gas lighting and fear mongering and subsequently categorize them as the 1 of millions responsible for the eventual down fall of western civilization. 1 gas lighting fear mongering ahole  can do nothing, millions destroy civilizations. 


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Humm... I don't know, dude. I dislike the idea of Trump grabing her by the pussy. Lol.
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"To give up his racism or his misogyny, ohhhh the dilemma"

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim’s mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition.

yeah that's some serious gaslighting, fuck me.

racist (not just to Muslim cultures, racist in general, history of it and funded Hillary Clinton against Obama for reasons he still hasn't clarified) woman-degrading (caught on tape and actions with wives and prostitutes while having wives suggest so) sack of shit has to pick between a man of Indian descent or a part Samoan woman, damn

psychological abuse central right here. explain some more, right now you are gaslighting to say I gaslit, fuck off.
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This is a stupid leftist talking point nobody believes because the premises are transparently stupid
It not only is circular logic ad-hom (stupid because stupid) but it's gaslighting as it implies nobody believes it. Clearly people believe it! Like... 
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3. Trump says women let him grab them by the pussy. 
He didn't just say this.

He said all women let rich/powerful men grab them by the pussy. While married, he would do anything he could to them and did. This is what he said. 

This is your champion of Conservative values.
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I didnt know gaslighting was abuse...

I thought its just a name for trolling tactic where you negate or question everything opponent says to destroy him mentally.

A cruel tactic, sure.
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I thought its just a name for trolling tactic where you negate or question everything opponent says to destroy him mentally.
No, it's more like what you do with the gays and pedophiles thing, the way you go about doing it and then act innocent as people get perplexed or triggered and point out some are in the closet and that gay is not the same as pedo etc.

That specifically is gaslighting and the term comes from when people in a domestic situation have one doing that to the other continuously.
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he would do anything he could to them and did. This is what he said. 
He said could, not would.

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That specifically is gaslighting and the term comes from when people in a domestic situation have one doing that to the other continuously
Well, that is cruel.

But if it is abuse in a domestic situation, is it also abuse if done on the internet?

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I know that some people argue online bullying isnt really bullying.

I mean, I am not sure where to stand on that.
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  1. Lying about or denying something and refusing to admit the lie even when you show them proof
  2. Insisting that an event or behavior you witnessed never happened and that you’re remembering it wrong
  3. Spreading rumors and gossip about you, or telling you that other people are gossiping about you
  4. Changing the subject or refusing to listen when confronted about a lie or other gaslighting behavior
  5. Telling you that you’re overreacting when you call them out
  6. Blame shifting in relationships—saying that if you acted differently, they wouldn’t treat you like this, so it’s really your fault
  7. Trying to smooth things over with loving words that don’t match their actions
  8. Twisting a story to minimize their abusive behavior
  9. Minimizing their hurtful behaviors or words by saying something like, “It was just a joke” or “You’re way too sensitive”
  10. Separating you from friends and family who might recognize your gaslighting abuse symptoms.
Here is what it says about gaslighting. Well, most of those are common online.
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He said all women let rich/powerful men grab them by the pussy. While married, he would do anything he could to them and did. This is what he said. 

This is your champion of Conservative values.
Woah there buddy. Nobody is voting for him because of his Christian values. Or family values. He was elected to punch the Washington elite in their mouth. 

The Washington elite are seen as satanic and evil to varying levels and it is often pointed out by Christians that God often uses the biggest pieces of shits to destroy his enemies. 

In th bible Paul prior to writing most of the new testament was famous for rounding up and killing Christians. Moses had Jewish slaves and served Pharoah. 

Nobody is voting for him because of his family values but because God has decided to use him to bring this country back to being a force that can be used by God to make the world a better place. 

It's no coincidence that in the primaries in 2016 everyone who attacked him fell one by one. Even Hillary when she attacked him was seen in a famous video being attacked by God. https://youtu.be/uvMieNZQSlM?si=XrXUXjJbWIzqRUp9

That isn't a stumble it is her stiffening up like a board and her eyes rolling into he back of her head as other angles confirmed.

Even Trumps loss was to herald in other heroes who would fight for God. 

1. Freedom of speech was actually about to be erased. You couldn't have an opinion the mainstream disagreed with and internal Twitter documents co firmed the FBI was working g with Twitter to suppress free speech. Elon Musk was called to bring freedom of speech.

Elon Musk haspractically abandoned his kids and is a terrible husband. God is so powerful he can use whoever the fuck he wants to save the world.

2. We were losing young males to nihilism as well as to the intentional feminization of men. A clear attempt to weaken men and the family unit. This is when God called forth a pimp and a drug addict to save young men. Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. 

3. Truth was becoming a casualty. The left control the narrative and media and on the sidelines was some liars and conmen who built their entire lives around telling lies, but God called them forth to show people the truth. These men are Alex Jones and Patrick Bet David. 


4. Trump has been deplayformed and the media has hidden his face. The media has hidden him from the public in anyway they can. What happened? God called trumps enemies to prosecute him so his image and words would dominate the news cycle. Whe. The news cycle gets slow they will then do something stupid like try to ban him from the ballot which keeps him I. The pu license consciousness. Or they prosecuted for a new crime like saying he co mitted fraud by paying too much taxes on Maralago or that he valued it too highly and used leverage to get a loan. Something that the bank has been paid back on a which hurt nobody. 

When people see these things, Trump stays in the consciousness and people's heart goes out to him because they know its bullshit. Even the people prosecuting him know it, but their hearts are hardened so they do God's work and have no ideal.

5. Trumps major party platform has always been about increasing legal immigration but also simultaneously increasing border security. So what happens? Democrats create an immigration crisis in blue cities across the nation. Now blacks are competing directly with immigrants for government subsidies and becoming red pilledin the process. 

RM, you better quickly figure out th will of God and stop working against it by supporting fascists who would end freedom of speech, the nuclear family and would increase poverty through outdated socialist principles already proven stupid hundreds of times after repeated failures. A system by th way built on the ideal that workers are treated like slaves and pissed on, so a response to something capitalism has already solved. 
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"Trump hates hispanics"

 "Trump is racist and wants to arrest all black people."


No the left really believes that stuff. My wife watches HLN and I watch Steven crowder interviews and this is literally what the left believes.  You even heard RM claim this is genuinely what he believes and why he opposes Trump.

With his statement 

"To give up his racism or his misogyny, ohhhh the dilemma"
I don't believe it is gaslighting at all. They can't criticize his policies because apparently they are just that good so instead they are either really stupid and believe he is Hitler or they are evil Liars.