A challenge I am willing to set

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One of the following will happen on Feb 13 2024:

1. There is global words in the sky that says, "Christianity is correct" and everyone worldwide will be able to see it in whatever language they speak.
2. There is global words in the sky that says, "Islam is correct" and everyone worldwide will be able to see it in whatever language they speak.
3. There is global words in the sky that says, "(Some other religion) is correct" and everyone worldwide will be able to see it in whatever language they speak.
4. There will be no words in the sky that says something like that because there is no God out there.

Whatever bullet point happens tomorrow would solve the religious debate if people made sense.

All other, "signs of God's existence" are coincidences and will not be accepted.

An all powerful God should have no problem doing something like this.

And, "God wants all of humanity to have faith" isn't something he is consistent with; otherwise he wouldn't send any perceived signs to us (and Saint Peter would be held to the same standard).

I don't believe in religion.
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Why Feb, 13th? What did I miss out?
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Nothing, he's just choosing a timeline that will come to pass before everybody forgets the challenge.

Since it's god he could have said "10 seconds from now".


It doesn't matter as we all know. The purported god loves us, has a plan for each of us, is willing to communicate it, but only by 5th hand accounts of prophets who died over a thousand years ago. Cause faith is a virtue you know?... but apparently it wasn't a virtue for all those people who were shown miracles and god (purportedly) said he was doing miracles to prove he was god.

The logic does not track.
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I have asked God to show himself to me many times.

He wont do it.

However, to my great surprise, any time I ask Gods for something, it comes true.

I asked Gods to give me knowledge of debating, and to great surprise, it happened.
It took years, but it happened.

I asked God to give me knowledge of words and poems, and it happened.

I asked God to give me knowledge of gardening, and eventually I got the knowledge I wanted.

I asked God to give me knowledge of wild edibles, and to my great surprise, I got great amount of knowledge just few years after I asked God.

Now, these above may be the result of my determination and research, but lets face it, the determination I have could be a gift from Gods.

Other people dont have determination that I have.

In fact, other people give up very fast, where I do research until I succeed, even if I fail 1000 times before that.

I am simply willing to fail 1000 times to succeed once.

The only question remains is which God gave me that determination, because there are over 3000 revealed Gods, and many hate each other.

This is why I am a polytheist.

I pray to many Gods, to both Satan and Jesus, the ancient Gods, the first Gods...

I simply do it because I have nothing to lose by praying, but I seem to have significant success since I started with praying.
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See you at the Lux !
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I asked Gods to give me knowledge of debating, and to great surprise, it happened.
It took years, but it happened.

I asked God to give me knowledge of words and poems, and it happened.

I asked God to give me knowledge of gardening, and eventually I got the knowledge I wanted.

I asked God to give me knowledge of wild edibles, and to my great surprise, I got great amount of knowledge just few years after I asked God.

This was entirely a combination of coincidence and hard work on your end.

People should put more trust in themselves than they should a God.
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People should put more trust in themselves than they should a God.
Tru dat !
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Hesitancy is perhaps sometimes more prudent than over-confidence in certain situations.



Though:

I would suggest that Global words in the sky, are unlikely to convince anyone of anything, other than that someone wrote global words in the sky.


Unless there was a very big bloke with a very big big piece of paper and a very big  pencil.


And probably a very big beard.


As it was, Feb 13 was very overcast, so I missed the very big global words.
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Though:

I would suggest that Global words in the sky, are unlikely to convince anyone of anything, other than that someone wrote global words in the sky.
The words could be designed in a way that it would be impossible for a human to do it.

  1. There would be millions of iterations of the text.
  2. It would zoom in and zoom out pretty quickly.
  3. It would change colors, Italisize, get underlined, all at random.
  4. The more advanced technology gets, the less believable this would be because humans might actually be able to pull it off, so it should be done before Feb 16, 2024.

Only an all powerful God can pull this off.

Since it has yet to happen, it means God doesn't exist (or he wants to have us rely on faith, which would then mean it's impossible to prove God's existince; because any "proof" undermines faith).

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No one predicts  the world will end in. 723 years time. 
Its always somthing happens in there life. 

A bit like doomsday prepers. 
And second comingers ers

Its any day now.
The JW learned this the hard way.   However they may have got there dates wrong. 
Thats a simpke mistake anyone can make. 
Ya'll should just  leve the JW alone.
Move on.


They lived every day on the friggen edge man. 
Wait for it. 
Hold.
Any second now. 
Hold. 
Get ready.  
Reallllll soon now.
Wait. 
Here it is.

Picture that cock head David Koresh when he heared them alarms that sounded like the Devils trumpets or angle trumpets.

I watched someone warn a 10 year old girl about the second coming  , and how her friend clair from school would be turned to ash. 
And forget about Winnie the dog.  
Now it wasn't told as bluntly as i make it out buttttttt.
Its fucking horrible . 

( He then raised with. ) 

It would be irresponsible if i didn't,  as she'd be one of the ones that gets turned to ash.  

( I insta folded.  )  


Picture  The jones Town mob that comitted suicide today. 
So like now, 
Picture em now. 
They'd be living it up now but right. 
The 900 and something of them are like ummmm, ruling the afterlife. 
They got real lucky.
They now run heaven 

You know this 

Oh And theres the blokez with the red shoes. 
Something to do with aliens weren't  they. 

And the hundred other groups that killed themselves for ummm, 
For like ummmm
A better life,
yeah a better life. 

THEY'D BE LIVING IT SOOOOOOO FUCKING LARGE RIGHT ABOUTTÞTTTTTTTTTTT
NOW RIGHT?
RIGHT? 
SO FUCKING WOULD.

Me being the dumb dumb that me are.
fucked up and missed them opportunities.
Same as bittcoin. 


Just 1 cup of coolaid could of had me living levita loka.
And her skins the color mocha, 
Black cats and vodoo dolls. 
Stoppppppppp.
Ok where was i. 

They would be "living"  EXTREMELY WELL right about now. 
Would you agree?  


OR
OR

Maybe not. ?
Dunno. ?
Who could know ? 
But ya can't say No right. 


Are well . 
Back to the music shall we. 

Her lips are devilish.  
Living levita loca.

The 9 eleven dudes would of been through there virgins by now. 
Well , i haven't don the math on that,  but they would have been hey ? 

Whats that. 

But now they got there kids to fuck. 
Said Thomas.  


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Funny how GOD didn't have this technology when he first started sending us messages..

It was burning bushes and tablets of stone back in the day.

Odd for an omniscient one.

Not even ten neatly penned sides of A4, photocopied for Moses to distribute.
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But What if the first messages god sent us was on a
( Plaxtin Plate Dynamic Carsp )    Thats a PPDC. 
And They haven't even been thought of until another 73 years 3 months and 4 days from today. 

Or

He could of wrote the bible on the beaches in the sand with stick at low tide. 

We find ourselves in between these two methods 

We are real luck how the real firsf original bible is word for word the same as the KJV today. 
Sooooooooo luck luck. 

He should of made us with a Christian operating system. 
A BUILT IN BIBLE IF YOU WILL. 
And you can't ROOT yourself.  


Who would Derek talk to about some writing that God told him to write down. ?
Today. 
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Funny how GOD didn't have this technology when he first started sending us messages..

It was burning bushes and tablets of stone back in the day.
He's GOD; he doesn't need technology; he can use magic/supernatural powers.
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For sure.

He's make believe and can do anything.




Though with the best will in the world, I wouldn't refer to presenting Moses with ten tablets of stone as particularly super-natural.

I rather think that inscribing  stones, was a clumsy old human way of recording and presenting data.

Cutting edge technology back then though.
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All that is required.

Is a super out of this world spacecraft.

And a six foot Caucasian hippy to stroll down the exit ramp surrounded by angel bodyguards.

That would be too obvious though.


Nope it's up a mountain with Moses, chiselling lumps of rock.


Moses is the old Hebrew word for Derek I presume.

Though I thought that Derek was the old Latin word for basket case.

If you get my drift.


Actually Derek Moses  still holds the record as the youngest person to cross the River Nile in a basket.

Hence the term, chicken in a basket.

And the old joke, why did the chicken cross the road.


Keep waltzing Matilda.

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If only i knew where the underdog lives. 

I doubt it would be over the top expensive just to get a plane to write, 

JEHOVAH WITNESSES ARE CORRECT. 

But Im sure we can get it done cheaper.

Hey Underdog  ?

Underdog. ?

Will you except. 
( JW are right. ) ? 

I mean .
If you seen that in the sky you'd know what it means right ?

'Crosses fingers ' 
Please say yes.   God red nu.
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Id except god if he could cover the ENTIRE WORLD in like ,, shit IDK.
In water. 
Yeah , so its like Waterworld. 

Also known as .
A wide flood world .
No hang about.,
A flood wide world 
A world wide flood .   Thats it. 

Again. 
Id fully believe in god ifffff he can flood the earth widely in water. 

So im looking for .
A world wide flood.   
Orrrrr. 
Floods near ya house for as far as you can see. 
Same thing really.

WTF.
Noooo. 
Im not an idiot . 
i will not except a lot of grasshoppers as god being real. 
Who the fuck would ?

That has to be the stupidest thing ive ever heard. 






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If only God had a family and Like a loving wife and kids. 
 
We could do unto him. 
Like ummmm, 

Get him to whore out his daughter. 

Get him and his brother to fight to the death. 

We could even   
Get him to DASH his youngest kid against the rocks. 

You know.....   
" Real testing "  
Real God like " testing." 
 
I highly doubt he would even set his dear wife on fire.    


Har har.
Just kidding . 
He fucking loves that shit. 
sick bastard.
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If only i knew where the underdog lives. 
I'm not telling you where I live.

I doubt it would be over the top expensive just to get a plane to write, 

JEHOVAH WITNESSES ARE CORRECT. 
No; I'm talking about something like Clouds spelling out the words, "(This religion) is the correct religion" a bunch of times all over the world in whatever language is needed (or it could all be English and translation will do what it does).

That would be evidence for God's existence.  Nothing else will count because it could be coincidence, and coincidences happen a lot.

Yeah , so its like Waterworld. 

Also known as .
A wide flood world .
I do not believe the world experienced a worldwide flood.  I think the bible is a myth and is a bunch of false stories.
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I don't think it would be hard to get rich people to join your church. 
Especially when i just saved there life a week ago. 
When that out of control car ( wich was driven by my mate and not out of control.
When i saved you from sure death. 

What im trying to say is. 
Setting up scenarios in wich you appear to save someones life wouldn't be that difficult.  

Especially for old people. 
So with a little homework on a persons  finances.  
You can really benifit.  

The churches love RICH OLD PEOPLE. 

Once you get them to your church you need to make them feel real important and special.  
Then its the job of the guy you pay to ( secure WILLS ) 
Hes a ruthless moraless manipulative son bitch. 
He appers ever so lovely but. 

If god knew you were rich . 
He prob would send you the required sign. 
But Only Becauseeeeeeeeee,  god fucking loves cash. 

Its  palm sunday this week or next i think. 

When i waz young , i seen a bunch of people walking  somewhere with palm prongs. 
It was beyond strange. 

Imagine like a god seeing some of the freaky shit we humans do to ummmm, 
To please him. 

This week its fasting. 

You know full that. God loves it when you skip a meal or two for him. 
Picture him looking down at you ( god lives in the sky. )
Picture him looking down at you and he sees you NOT EATING FOR HIM.,

Pic him spitting on his fingers and rubbing his 6 nipples. 
Yeah Thats the shit.  


Pic him looking down and him seeing a big bunch of guys waving around palm leaves. 

Fuckin loves it. 

And we haven't even got around to mention how much he loves it when we get together and sing songs to him. 
 
His such a lucky god to have the theists dance for him . 


A challenge would be going to jail and not running into god. 
God for some reason hangs out and speaks to most peoples that go to jail.
If you Steal a car and set it on fire whilst in posesion of a fire arm.
Youd be looking at 5 years .
Aka 2 years .
You'd be guaranteed to bump into god a hanfull of times within that period. 

Remember .
There is only one thing you need to know from god. 
So what ya wanna do issss .
When you see him . Its important to
keep asking over and over again .
WHAT RELIGIOUS GROUP DO I JOIN. ?
Please god 
WHAT RELIGIOUS GROUP DO I JOIN. ?
Keep at it.

Get the answer from him for that then insta join. 





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Funny how GOD didn't have this technology when he first started sending us messages..

It was burning bushes and tablets of stone back in the day.

Odd for an omniscient one.

Not even ten neatly penned sides of A4, photocopied for Moses to distribute.
Imagine if 2,000 years from now, if we were still here, we developed a type of orb the size of a softball that can be sent to someone giving a type of orbital email when it detects the recipient is alone, and away from a computer. When the orb finds the recipient, all the recipient has to do is touch the orb with the index finger, the orb recognizes the fingerprint, and opens up a message written in the air, that only he/she can see via eyeball recognition.

Now God decides to send you a message via one of these orbs developed just for you. So now you have this strange orb following you around when you're alone. What are you going to do?

The idea is that while God spoke to Moses via a burning bush, and creating a set of commandments on a stone, He already knew about the internet which is just merely child's play to Him.
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Yep, great idea for a story.

Though I think a better idea would be an omni-sensible GOD.

But like you said...It's all ideas.



And too be honest, floating orbs also make for good sci-fi.

Though as a system of personal data transfer, not really a 2000 year improvement on todays data transfer methods.

If an improvement at all.

Tap Tap Tap Send is all that it takes now.
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I'm viewing the future with a contemporary lens, just like males will have crew cuts in a 1950s movie depicting the  future in the 1980s, or males wearing bell bottoms in a 1970s movie depicting the future in the 21st century.

So if we make it to the 23rd century, their means of communication might be far too complicated to figure out, which is why we have to be satisfied with emails for right now.
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Very true.