Right-Tribe States finally start playing The Game

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In  a free and liberal election, 2 year old's and felons can vote, even if they live in Russia.

In a 100% free election, you can mail unlimited amounts of ballots and anybody can fill them out. Nobody can restrict you.
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In a 100% free election, you can mail unlimited amounts of ballots and anybody can fill them out.
You're just reasserting that definition. Ultimately definitions are arbitrary. You need to look at context and history to know if you're using a honest definition or not.

So let me ask you three questions:
A) Should that be what "free election" means?
B) Do you think "free election" always meant that?
C) If you took a poll with a multi choice and it had my definition and your definition, do you think the majority would agree with me or with you? Do you think it's 95% one or the other?
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Many would agree that restricting a person from voting by requiring ID and a verified signature is not a free election and possibly racist.
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Many would agree that restricting a person from voting by requiring ID and a verified signature is not a free election and possibly racist.
Okay, but if you accept definitions from the insane how long until you become insane too?

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Be it collapse into pathetic powerlessness or civil war, either outcome is preferable to the inane slavery of pretending we are living in a nation of laws.
You need help
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I am sure the detractors of tyranny will have plenty of assistance.
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I love how these punk ass right wing snowflakes who are terrified of everything, like to threaten a civil war. 

It's all talk of course, cowards talk shit, but they are all talk, internet tough guys, big hat, no cattle.

I can only imagine how they would go to war, "Oh no, they have trans people, run away, run away", "Oh no, there are some LGBTQ people, run away, run away", "Oh no, there are some Drag Queens, run away, run away",   "Oh no, a football player took a knee, run away, run away".  

"Oh no, they have Jewish Space Lasers, run away, run away, we will have to make the world safe for Mr. Potatohead another day".

"The horror, the horror, bone spurs, bone spurs!"

Oh yeah sure, the snowflakes want a civil war, they are soooo scary, LOL.

They could never stop whining long enough to have a civil war anyway.


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@Best.Korea I said about you "Most people are like you (well maybe a bit better than you) in terms of total ignorance of military science."

Here is an example of a person who is even more ignorant than you, you at least talked about a tank which is indeed a weapon:

[Sidewalker] I can only imagine how they would go to war, "Oh no, they have trans people, run away, run away", "Oh no, there are some LGBTQ people, run away, run away", "Oh no, there are some Drag Queens, run away, run away",   "Oh no, a football player took a knee, run away, run away".  

People like this are no threat, nor are the people who mock the left-tribe as a bunch of balless, blue-haired, weaklings who don't know which way to point a gun.

Such fools will not affect the outcome of war. These people will:

The first rule of military science (well maybe not the first, but a big one) is: Don't underestimate the enemy. You overestimate you miss opportunities. You underestimate you get obliterated. If you need to use fuzzy logic (and you will) assume the worst.
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I mean, at this point, ad hominem against you or greyparrot is warranted.

Well, more against greyparrot, since he made many claims of unwarranted ad hominems and many reports.
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@Greyparrot
Looks like you can no longer claim unwarranted ad hom.
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I mean, at this point, ad hominem against you or greyparrot is warranted.
...and why is that?


Well, more against greyparrot, since he made many claims of unwarranted ad hominems and many reports.
So reporting ad homs earns ad homs?
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...and why is that?
Really? You cant figure out why?
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He just wants to be able to call us deplorable like Hillary and Biden and get away with it. Channeling the inner Democrat. Like the dark Sith.
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...and why is that?
Really? You cant figure out why?
Your mind does work in mysterious ways.
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I am just waiting for you to claim "unwarranted ad hom" to remind you that you are promoting civil war.
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Civil War is the inevitable result of unwarranted Ad Homs.
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He just want's to be able to call us deplorable like Hillary and Biden and get away with it.
IWRA is constantly getting away with it. I have no idea where this "warranted" stuff came from. I'm just curious as to what kind of pearls the communist dictator worshiper/adult-child sexual relations apologist thinks he can clutch.

I would never dismiss an argument just because it came from someone who has said wrong (or unpopular) things before, but when someone who has said profoundly unpopular things before tries to imply he's above explaining himself because someone has said something "beyond the pale"... well we're getting into hypocrisy territory now.

I believe in the golden rule. If they don't try to overton window me, I won't try to overton window them; but you can't mix and match.
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I am just waiting for you to claim "unwarranted ad hom" to remind you that you are promoting civil war.
So promoting a civil war warrants ad homs?

And where did he promote a civil war?

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Civil War is the inevitable result of unwarranted Ad Homs.
Sadly, now all IWRA's ad homs are well warranted 🙂
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every government is involuntary to someone inside of that government. we are still called, at least by the bible, to respect the government. our society in the usa is the greatest in history, and it's not even close. it's not perfect, but we shouldn't let good be the enemy of great. besides, this is a great country, so that's not even the question. so to start a civil war in this great country, is a morally bankrupt position.  this is mostly just loony tune talk anyway, from internet dwellers... no state is realistically going to start a civil war. 
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Civil War is the inevitable result of unwarranted Ad Homs.
Sadly, now all IWRA's ad homs are well warranted 🙂
Why is that?
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Glad for your support for the inevitable.
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no state is realistically going to start a civil war. 
They said that in 1860.
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so to start a civil war in this great country, is a morally bankrupt position
Well, thats the position of MAGA.

Apparently, there is 60 million of them, as previously claimed by their members in this topic in the context of "how many will go to civil war?"

But lets not jump to logical conclusions.

Maybe they are Democrat's accounts trying to make MAGA look bad.
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@n8nrgim
every government is involuntary to someone inside of that government. we are still called, at least by the bible, to respect the government.
Not everyone is a christian, and not all christians agree with that interpretation. For example the founding fathers of the USA.


no state is realistically going to start a civil war. 
1) But they will realistically and have already repeatedly ignored the supreme court.

2) Then the question is whether federal agents will be sent to enforce the ruling of the supreme court.

3) Then the question is whether those federal agents will be arrested for participating in a criminal conspiracy to violate state laws.

4) Then the question is whether the federal government will declare an insurrection.

5) Then the question is whether the military mobilizes or turns on itself.

At what step and with which party to you lay the blame for "starting a civil war"?

Wars do not only come from people aiming for war as an end in of itself, in fact rarely is that the case. The people who fired on fort Sumter were completely convinced they were not the aggressors.
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They said that in 1860.
You just cant hide your excitement!

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Punk ass talk is cheap, and oath keepers are a joke, a bunch of green teeth rednecks with a gun in one hand and a beer in the other does not a civil war make.
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@Best.Korea
You just cant hide your excitement!

Contrast, who sounds more excited:
They said that in 1860.
Punk ass talk is cheap, and oath keepers are a joke, a bunch of green teeth rednecks with a gun in one hand and a beer in the other does not a civil war make.
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the most likely outcome will be that texas will ignore the court order, and the feds and texas will continue with a stand off. texas will for practical purposes do what it wants to do, unless they are forced not to, which i dont think will happen. at most there might be a battle, but it won't warp into a great civil war. jumping to that conclusion is just mypotic and short sighted, stupid. 

an immigration crisis isn't a big enough reason to start a war. this is like letting a relatively small argument in a marriage end in divorce. sometimes the sides have to live with each other. and, that would be the best outcome, finding a way to deal with it. our country is stronger and better united, not divided. at its core, this is still the greatest country in history, bar none, so to try to secede or whatever a war would be for, would be, again, stupid. like a baby crying over not getting its way. 
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I'm just curious as to what kind of pearls the communist dictator worshiper/adult-child sexual relations apologist thinks he can clutch
I mean, technically, you are the one helping Kim Jong Un.

So you are more of a communist dictator worshipper here.