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@TheUnderdog
If you were wondering what county politics caused me to register as a democrat, it was fighting unequal application of county codes.
Unequal application of the law allows absurd law to remain on the books to be used to:
A.) Threaten dissidents
A.) Threaten dissidents
B.) Satisfy Karens
C.) Public corruption
C.) Public corruption
It is unacceptable. Prosecutorial discretion is unacceptable (and unconstitutional). The notion of any crime so minor that there need not be a trial is unacceptable. The rot of petty tyranny permeates every aspect of American public life, from the smallest HOA (where the absurdity reaches amazing heights) to the highest federal offices.
Revolution is what is needed. It doesn't have to be bloody. It doesn't mean we have to burn down buildings, but these structures are rotten must be interrupted entirely.
There are questions which must always be answered to near unanimous satisfaction: What gives you (the state) the right to do this? Who is the victim of the crime? What suffering will you (agent of the state) endure if you needlessly cause others suffering?
Wait, sheltering homeless is a crime?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Revolution is what is needed. It doesn't have to be bloody.
How about another joke?
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@Best.Korea
Wait, sheltering homeless is a crime?
Everything is a crime when vague laws are interpreted by lazy, corrupt, or biased people.
That's why Trump is being charged with a crime for saying he thinks his properties are worth a lot of money.
Revolution is what is needed. It doesn't have to be bloody.How about another joke?
You tell plenty already.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You tell plenty already.
And you dont.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If you were wondering what county politics caused me to register as a democrat, it was fighting unequal application of county codes.
How is that a left wing idea? It's like saying what caused someone to be a republican was they liked working out. Working out and county codes aren't political.
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@TheUnderdog
If you were wondering what county politics caused me to register as a democrat, it was fighting unequal application of county codes.How is that a left wing idea?
I never said it was. Left and right are made up. Empty containers for politicians and people to fill with their own hopes.
Liberty means something. Equality under the law means something.
Working out and county codes aren't political.
Government violence is by definition political. What you mean is that restoring the enormous list of rights trampled on by county codes isn't a mainstream issue. Puppet propagandist of the deep state control what is mainstream by manipulating narrative and continuously asking any opponents questions about the issues they choose as if they were somehow the most important, an excellent example would be gender-neutral bathrooms.
The arbitrary enforcement of "minor" criminal codes such as building codes and zoning deprive more people of more liberty than enforcing gender neutral bathrooms in public accommodations ever could. In fact the mechanism for such enforcement would be building codes in the same way the Americans with disabilities act inanely forces people to build ramps just in case somebody needs it once a year.
If you think the OP example is an outlier you are sorely mistaken. Long live the killdozer!
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I never said it was.
You said it's the reason you became a democrat.
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@TheUnderdog
Yes, the county executive office has been controlled by democrats for decades. Bunch of zombies that will pick democrat no matter how much their life sucks. So the only way to affect change is to influence the primary.I never said it was.You said it's the reason you became a democrat.
Very much like how left-tribers are currently voting for Niki Haley.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Very much like how left-tribers are currently voting for Niki Haley.
I don't think that's accurate. Nikki Haley refused to say at a Town Hall that the civil war was about slavery.
The left does not like Nikki Haley.
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@TheUnderdog
Very much like how left-tribers are currently voting for Niki Haley.I don't think that's accurate. Nikki Haley refused to say at a Town Hall that the civil war was about slavery.The left does not like Nikki Haley.
You know there is a sci-fi book: The Three Body Problem
In this book there are aliens whose evolutionary history rendered them exclusively capable of direct telepathy without deception. They never imagined communicating intentional falsehoods. So they nearly blew an enormous technical advantage by telling humanity their genocidal intentions.
I don't know if you're in some weird drug-addled rut or if you have had a dangerously sheltered life but you're giving off that kind of vibe.
So to be clear about what you should be very aware of as a human being: People do not always do what they say they will do. People's behavior can't be predicted by a simplistic list of "good" and "bad".
People will make sacrifices. People will lie. People will subvert. All because (normal) people have a theory of other minds.
"The left does not like Nikki Haley" as if that somehow proves a left-triber wouldn't cast a vote for her? They are evaluating relative probabilities and acting to maximize the sum of the outcome probability * outcome acceptability. They understand the game, like I understand the game. You need to understand the game or you will be forever making incorrect predictions about other people's behavior. If you are this clueless in your personal life you will be very vulnerable to manipulation.
Speaking of the civil war, that was full of subversion by both sides. The southern aristocracy knew they were fighting for slavery, said as much publicly (to the right crowds); but they told the average southerner it was about state's rights and they meant it even if it was secondary to preserving slavery for them.
Lincoln denied it was about slavery more than once, to preserve political power; given the full historical context it's as obvious as the Himalayan mountains that the abolitionists including Lincoln were always going to leap at any chance to abolish slavery and that without that motivation there would have been no civil war (as the south easily saw through Lincoln's obfuscations about his beliefs).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Just like the border situation today. DC and the left wing SCOTUS will insist it's an issue about federal rights over state rights when they send federal troops to oversee the cutting of Texas razor wire at Eagle Pass. They would never publicly say they needed to flood the country with cheap labor to fund the Ponzi scheme they created with unfunded entitlements.....
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@ADreamOfLiberty
In this book there are aliens whose evolutionary history rendered them exclusively capable of direct telepathy without deception.
Oh man; if they read my mind, maybe those fuckers could help me out with my crazy thoughts.
Those alien motherfuckers need to be therapists. They actually would know how my mind works.
So to be clear about what you should be very aware of as a human being: People do not always do what they say they will do. People's behavior can't be predicted by a simplistic list of "good" and "bad".
What does this have to dow with Nikki Haley? She may have been lying, but we assume a politician is telling the truth. Otherwise, Biden might be pro life, but since he says he's pro choice, he might actually be pro life, but we as normal people assume Biden is pro choice if he says he's pro choice.
"The left does not like Nikki Haley" as if that somehow proves a left-triber wouldn't cast a vote for her?
Most left wingers would vote for Biden over her. They would support her over Trump, I get that. But in a general election; Biden vs Haley; most left wingers would vote for Biden.
Speaking of the civil war, that was full of subversion by both sides. The southern aristocracy knew they were fighting for slavery, said as much publicly (to the right crowds); but they told the average southerner it was about state's rights and they meant it even if it was secondary to preserving slavery for them.Lincoln denied it was about slavery more than once, to preserve political power; given the full historical context it's as obvious as the Himalayan mountains that the abolitionists including Lincoln were always going to leap at any chance to abolish slavery and that without that motivation there would have been no civil war (as the south easily saw through Lincoln's obfuscations about his beliefs).
This is true. Although if Lincoln said in his election, "I want to abolish slavery nationwide", the south wouldn't have voted for him (they didn't in our own timeline), but then the norhtern vote would have been even more energized (same with the southern vote).
It would be kindof like Beto O Rouke; who said, "Hell yes; we're taking your AR 15" and (although I don't like Beto), the left wing Texans loved him. He did better than other democrats in Texas.
People like bluntness.
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@TheUnderdog
It doesn't matter if they like her. They will vote for her if voting for her reduces the chance of what to them is an unacceptable outcome.So to be clear about what you should be very aware of as a human being: People do not always do what they say they will do. People's behavior can't be predicted by a simplistic list of "good" and "bad".What does this have to dow with Nikki Haley?
Most left wingers would vote for Biden over her.
Yes, but they don't have to choose in a primary.
But in a general election
Obviously wasn't the context.
Although if Lincoln said in his election, "I want to abolish slavery nationwide", the south wouldn't have voted for him (they didn't in our own timeline), but then the norhtern vote would have been even more energized (same with the southern vote).
No, the northern vote would have been suppressed. There were tons of people who did not feel the duty to die to free slaves. The Constitutional Union Party and northern democrats were a major force before military victory became obvious.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It doesn't matter if they like her. They will vote for her if voting for her reduces the chance of what to them is an unacceptable outcome.
Then they can't vote for Biden. You only get one vote during any one primary. Primary Party switching is very rare.
No, the northern vote would have been suppressed. There were tons of people who did not feel the duty to die to free slaves.
Then why did they die for slaves in our timeline?
Lincoln claimed he wanted to "preserve the union", but if this was the case, he would let slave states expand at the same rate as free states.
Lincoln wanted to in the long run ban slavery nationwide and if he was upfront with that, the northern vote would be energized (kind of hoe Beto unapologetically wanting to ban AR 15s made him very popular among democrats and Beto did better than a normal democrat in Texas [a state known for loose gun laws and gun culture; probably more than any other state]).
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@TheUnderdog
They don't need to vote for Biden in the primary.It doesn't matter if they like her. They will vote for her if voting for her reduces the chance of what to them is an unacceptable outcome.Then they can't vote for Biden.
No, the northern vote would have been suppressed. There were tons of people who did not feel the duty to die to free slaves.Then why did they die for slaves in our timeline?
Many were convinced (by propaganda) that they were fighting for a divine plan in which the united states must remain united.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Thats an anecdote.
What % of people party switch solely for a primary and then switch back?
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@TheUnderdog
Thats an anecdote.
If anecdotes are irrelevant then how could you possibly have information to the effect of "Primary Party switching is very rare."
What % of people party switch solely for a primary and then switch back?
They only need to switch back if they need to affect a primary in the other party. The guy in the video does not need to switch back to vote for Biden.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If anecdotes are irrelevant then how could you possibly have information to the effect of "Primary Party switching is very rare."
If it was common, then the % of people claiming to be democrat would fluctuate wildly from like 15% to 50%.
It stays much more level than that; about 1/3 of the country is democrat; about 1/3 republican; about 1/3 independent.
They only need to switch back if they need to affect a primary in the other party. The guy in the video does not need to switch back to vote for Biden.
He would though; it's not like a guy like that would call himself a republican.
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@TheUnderdog
They only need to switch back if they need to affect a primary in the other party. The guy in the video does not need to switch back to vote for Biden.He would though; it's not like a guy like that would call himself a republican.
So your theory is that he would be so disgusted with himself that he couldn't stand being a registered republican?
That's pure projection. You think everyone is blindly loyal to a party and thus you assume they would be emotionally motivated over something that has no practical significance.
Anyone paying attention enough (even if to propaganda) to understand that primary attack strategy is not so shallow.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
That's pure projection. You think everyone is blindly loyal to a party and thus you assume they would be emotionally motivated over something that has no practical significance.
The party's name has weight for a lot of people. If you think someone not in power with the same beleifs AOC would temporarily switch parties to the republican party to vote against Trump, that doesn't make any sense. Not that many republicans did that with Biden and RFK (or even with Marian Williamson who came out as anti vaccine mandate and I think Marian Williamson is more like RFK than she is like Biden).
Joy Reid goes off script complaining about Biden starting another fucking war...
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@Greyparrot
Huh, well there is someone who knows she's a propagandist. Bet she buys a lot of melatonin. Not really on topic of the thread?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Sorry, it was a smooth concrete moment. Won't happen again, I swear.