whoops.
Guess this survey jives with the reason for the passionate denials. A guilty conscience is a terrible thing.
But it's all OK folks, because this "democracy" is saved from destruction.
One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit They Cheated in 2020 Election
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@Best.Korea
Yeah, it was fun while it lasted.
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@Greyparrot
Its not about the goal. Its about the adventure.
OMG, one fifth of mail in votes Trump got were fake? Lock Him Up!!!!!
Kentucky Secretary of State says absentee ballots account for 85% of vote. It's time to eliminate mail in voting.
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@FLRW
It's time to eliminate mail in voting.
Whelp, it was nice having Biden around I guess.
Trump said that when he is President again he is going to shut down the US Mail.
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@FLRW
Amazon will stop him. After all, Bezos owns WAPO.
DeSantis says as US president he would eliminate IRS and other agencies.
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@FLRW
So don't vote for DeSantis.
Guess this survey jives with the reason for the passionate denials.
Bullshit you horse’s ass.
…21% of Likely U.S. voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child…
There is not enough information available from that question or answer to know if fraud was committed.
40% of all voters are MAGA Morons who would be cheating for Trump, not against him, and would be happy to mislead the pollsters and tell them a lie.
“Forty-six percent (46%) of those surveyed voted for Joe Biden in 2020, while 45% voted for Donald Trump.”
“Seventeen percent (17%) of those who cast mail-in ballots in 2020 say they signed a ballot or ballot envelope on behalf of a friend or family member, with or without their permission” - so 100% of those respondents could have had permission to sign the ballot by their spouse.
Reported for unwarranted Ad-Hom.
Reported for unwarranted Ad-Hom.
Oh it was warranted you horse’s ass
Reported for unwarranted Ad-Hom.
lol.
Jonathan Chait of the New Republic said that Rasmussen is perceived in the "conservative world" as "the gold standard"[94] and suggested the polling company asks the questions specifically to show public support for the conservative position. He cited an example[95] in which Rasmussen asked "Should the government set limits on how much salt Americans can eat?" when the issue was actually whether to limit the amount of salt only in pre-processed food.
Leave it to a useless Libertarian to find the least accurate and least credible pollster.
“Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.[101][102] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;[103] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party—he says jump and they say how high.'"[102]
Rasmussen is useless
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You are a liar. The title of your post is a lie.
“One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit They Cheated in 2020 Election”
That is a blatant lie. You should go work for Rasmussen. They are inclined to tell lies with their polls.
Reported for unwarranted Adhom
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@Greyparrot
Guess this survey jives with the reason for the passionate denials. A guilty conscience is a terrible thing.
Do you enjoy being manipulated by right wing propaganda?
"21% of Likely U.S. voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member"
This is where the headline comes from. This is your one-in-five. So the argument is as follows:
P1: It is illegal to fill out someone else's ballot
P2: One in five mail in ballots were filled out by someone else
C: One in five cheated
All it takes is a person with an IQ above room temperature and 4 seconds of critical thought to recognize how stupid this argument is. First of all, if someone needs a mail in ballot, there is a relatively high chance it's because they're elderly or disabled, which means there is a good chance they would not be able to fill out their own ballot so of course they might ask a friend or family to do it for them. Illegal? Maybe. Cheating? No.
But here is the strongest point the article makes:
Furthermore, 17% of mail-in voters say that in the 2020 election, they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer a permanent resident.
Again, illegal? Yes. Cheating? No. This would be cheating if they also filled out a ballot in another state, but that is fairly easy to catch and they do catch people doing it all the time.
It is also important to remember that 2020 saw some of the highest levels of displacement in our nation's history along with administrative delays all resulting from the pandemic. If you move and there's not enough time to get registered in your new state there is no reason you should not be allowed to vote. The point of democracy is that everyone gets a say. This is a problem with the system that needs to be corrected, not a reason to get rid of it.
But this is yet another game the political right loves to play; search for some technical violation in as many ballots as they can find and then pretend a technical violation = cheating.
What shows this argument to be not only ridiculous but also disingenuous is that everytime Trump gets indicted these same people often argue it was just a "process crime", the logic being that it was just a technical violation where no harm was done so there's no legitimate reason to prosecute him. Setting aside the absurdity of that portrayal of his actions, it's hilarious how when it concerns Trump it's fine, but when it concerns a fundamental constitutional right we need to get rid of it ASAP.
Again, illegal? Yes. Cheating? No.
My concern is the manipulation of MSM where they claimed "NO ELECTION FRAUD"
Illegal votes that were then counted were in fact: fraudulent votes in the cases where election officials purposefully disregarded the means to verify votes. Whether most of the mail in votes counted went to Biden or not when the in-person voting favored his opponent ("cheating") is irrelevant. This is a deliberate undermining of the credibility of institutions charged with election fairness when the people themselves admit to wrongdoing, yet the state has no remedy.
Today, the new gaslight phrase is "NO EVIDENCE"
Again, there will be no remedy, so the people will have to manufacture one on their own.
that everytime Trump gets....
Not everything is about Trump.
Today, the new gaslight phrase is "NO EVIDENCE"
Bullshit.
Trump didn’t claim election fraud because some old lady asked her daughter to help fill out her ballot.
He claimed dead people voted by the thousands
He claimed poll workers fed the same Biden votes into the tabulation machine multiple times
He claimed Dominion voting machines changed his votes into votes for Biden
He claimed suitcases full of fraudulent ballots were secretly processed after the poll watchers left the building
He claimed his votes were somehow picked out and destroyed
He claimed there was ballot harvesting for Biden
He claimed illegal aliens voted by the thousands
He claimed voters for Biden voted multiple times
There was no evidence for any of these false claims. That’s why all the challenges were rejected in court including by judges appointed by Trump.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Trump lies a lot.
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@Greyparrot
My concern is the manipulation of MSM where they claimed "NO ELECTION FRAUD"Illegal votes that were then counted were in fact: fraudulent votes
What IWR said. Me filling out my granddad's ballot because he has Parkinsons and can't write is not election fraud and certainly does not deserve airtime on CBS.
This is a deliberate undermining of the credibility of institutions
The undermining of our intuitions cones from propaganda like this and people like you buying right into it as you clearly have.
Not everything is about Trump.
Neither was my comment if you had actually bothered to read and think about what I said instead of skimming for trigger words you thought gave you permission to dismiss the message.
Trump was an example demonstrating the hypocrisy of those making these claims.
Hypocrisy of what? Read the damn comment and find out.
What IWR said. Me filling out my granddad's ballot because he has Parkinsons and can't write is not election fraud and certainly does not deserve airtime on CBS.
I know that's what he said. That is not what I said. Nobody cares about trusting IWRA to follow election laws. People care about election officials preserving the integrity of elections and to not count 21 percent of admittedly illegal votes.
Trump was an example...
Again, Trump was not trusted to count ballots fairly with integrity, and he was also not trusted to throw out illegal ballots that were filled out and signed by another person. Not everything is about Trump. This is about the failure of the trust of an election process and the failure to provide a fair and legitimate election for the public. Nothing to do with Trump.
Point me to the policy changes that will prevent this from happening again. I can wait a few decades, it's ok.
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@Greyparrot
People care about election officials preserving the integrity of elections to not count 21 percent of admittedly illegal votes.
This is so incredibly stupid. Once again, the law is not intended to stop grandads with Parkinsons from voting. Democracy means everyone gets a say. Laws like this are put in the books as a way of holding people accountable who commit actual wrongdoing, no prosecutor in their right mind would charge someone for this and no individual with two brain cells to rub together would actually believe our system of voting is flawed because of it.
As I've pointed out before, the guy who pushes an old lady out of the way from an oncoming bus and the guy who pushes an old lady into one... Both pushed an old lady. That doesn't mean they are the same. Learn to tell different things apart from each other.
Point me to the policy changes that will prevent this from happening again.
They're isn't one because this isn't a problem today needs fixing. If anything, the problem here is that it is illegal to help someone fill out a ballot who can't do it for themselves. I'm assuming that's the case anyway, otherwise even in technical grounds your claim is complete bullshit.
Not everything is about Trump
And for the third time, neither was my post. Learn to read.
This is about the failure of the trust of an election process and the failure to provide a fair and legitimate election for the public.
Bullshit. You are so full of shit.
The few people that did try to vote twice or cast votes for dead relatives were Republicans. Because Republicans are a disgrace
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Yes, a Pennsylvania Republican is facing several felony counts after he allegedly registered two deceased relatives to vote in Delaware County,