Bestiality is not wrong

Author: Best.Korea

Posts

Total: 23
Topic's author
#1
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 352
Posts: 10,342
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
I dont think that bestiality is wrong.

If someone has sex with an animal, he shouldnt be punished.

It seems wrong to punish someone just because he had sex with an animal.

This society often kills and tortures animals, so can this society really judge a person for having sex with an animal if both person and animal enjoy it?
#2
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 11,997
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@Best.Korea
You seem to be suggesting that bestiality is exclusively a man thing.

Though Welsh farmers are/were renowned for their proclivities.

Though I stress that I am neither Welsh by birth nor a farmer.


Though for sure, in the interests of equality and diversity...LGBTBQ

Plus....

N for necrophilia.

Or M/W for the self abuse angle.

Anything else?


Oh! Almost for got H for heterosexual.

Boring old straightish sex.


And then roll over and go to sleep.
#3
n8nrgim
n8nrgim's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,001
3
2
5
n8nrgim's avatar
n8nrgim
3
2
5
do cows ever fuck pigs? is interspecies sex outside of humans even a thing? i never hear of it. there's enough data that gay animals exist... but interspecies sex? 

"A male snow monkey has been observed attempting to have sex with female sika deer on Japan's Yakushima Island, in an unusual example of interspecies mating behaviour. It is only the second recorded example of sexual relations between two distantly related species."

looks like it's very rare. primates including humans must be horny fucks. 
#4
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 11,997
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@n8nrgim
My dog often goes a bundle on my wife's leg.

And my tortoise will just about fu*k anything that he can mount...His current favourite is the base of the standard lamp.
#5
n8nrgim
n8nrgim's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,001
3
2
5
n8nrgim's avatar
n8nrgim
3
2
5
Not that I watch bestiality porn, but I did happen to see a video of dog fuckin a woman, doggy style, of course 
#6
FLRW
FLRW's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,422
3
4
8
FLRW's avatar
FLRW
3
4
8

I think bestiality is wrong. You can always buy a hooker or Slovenian sex worker.
#7
n8nrgim
n8nrgim's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,001
3
2
5
n8nrgim's avatar
n8nrgim
3
2
5
I think an interesting argument is whether the animal consents to it. For example. The animal fucking you instead of you fucking the animal
#8
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 11,997
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@FLRW
Slovenian sex workers are not readily available in the Welsh mountains.

So a Ewe with it's head stuck in a fence, is a GOD send.

So I am told.
#9
Sam_Flynn
Sam_Flynn's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 121
0
2
4
Sam_Flynn's avatar
Sam_Flynn
0
2
4
-->
@Best.Korea
I dont think that bestiality is wrong.

Okay. Hmmm....

Your thinking is definitely wrong. 

17 days later

#10
ADreamOfLiberty
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,989
3
2
2
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
ADreamOfLiberty
3
2
2
-->
@n8nrgim
is interspecies sex outside of humans even a thing?
Yes, there is video proof. It shouldn't surprise anyone that understands evolution results in blunt instruments so much of the time.


"A male snow monkey has been observed attempting to have sex with female sika deer on Japan's Yakushima Island, in an unusual example of interspecies mating behaviour. It is only the second recorded example of sexual relations between two distantly related species."
Maybe the second time they cared enough to record. I have five examples on my hard drive.

Inter-species interactions other than fighting and threatening to fight are generally rare. Humans are almost always the ones who create a situation where different species are in the same herd/pack dynamic and when that happens the natural outcome is sexual advance.

It's interesting you note monkeys, because our fellow primates (monkeys) are one of the few other animals that have been observed forming strong alliances with other species, i.e. monkeys + dogs; and I guarantee you they show interest in each other.
#11
ADreamOfLiberty
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,989
3
2
2
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
ADreamOfLiberty
3
2
2
-->
@FLRW
You can always buy a hooker or Slovenian sex worker.
You can always cut out your gonads, but that doesn't make sex wrong.
#12
ADreamOfLiberty
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,989
3
2
2
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
ADreamOfLiberty
3
2
2
-->
@n8nrgim
I think an interesting argument is whether the animal consents to it.
Interesting only in so far as the obvious is made controversial by virtue of it being a convenient excuse for unregulated disgust.

Nobody asks whether a dog can consent to paragliding, they presume themselves and the dog's human companion competent to assess body language and determine "Yes" or "No".


For example. The animal fucking you instead of you fucking the animal
That is not a difference in capacity to consent it is a difference of doubt of the state of mind.

If a active male can consent, so can a passive female. There is no reason to suspect that cognition is highly sexually dimorphic. It simply means more caution in ascertaining consent is warranted.
#13
ADreamOfLiberty
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,989
3
2
2
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
ADreamOfLiberty
3
2
2
-->
@Sam_Flynn
I dont think that bestiality is wrong.
Okay. Hmmm....

Your thinking is definitely wrong. 
Hint: It's not wrong by default.  You do need a reason to condemn something.
#14
Sam_Flynn
Sam_Flynn's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 121
0
2
4
Sam_Flynn's avatar
Sam_Flynn
0
2
4
-->
@ADreamOfLiberty
 It's not wrong by default.  You do need a reason to condemn something.
No I do not. It goes without saying that it is patently wrong. 
Beastiality not being wrong. Really? 



#15
ADreamOfLiberty
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,989
3
2
2
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
ADreamOfLiberty
3
2
2
-->
@Sam_Flynn
You do need a reason to condemn something.
No I do not.
Well at least you admit it. There is by definition nothing to discuss with confessed irrationality.
#16
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 11,997
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
@Sam_Flynn

Who or what decides the difference between right and wrong.
#17
Sam_Flynn
Sam_Flynn's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 121
0
2
4
Sam_Flynn's avatar
Sam_Flynn
0
2
4
-->
@zedvictor4
Society, collectively, and always the majority. 
That's how it's always been, and it will continue to be so.
#18
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 11,997
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
@ Sam_Flynn.


At the point of decision making, I'm not sure that any political system actually regards the majority.

Collective decisions that reach the statute books are made by a select handful of people.

Based upon the knowledge that most people are too busy and/or disinterested.

As for the average Joe's day to day existence, he will disregard the law if he feels so compelled. Within this context right and wrong are temporary notions  not affected by a greater external authority.

That's how it always has been.

Though whether the individual will be always able to retain freedom of thought, is a moot point. I think that thought policing is a serious technological possibility.
Topic's author
#19
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 352
Posts: 10,342
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sam_Flynn
No I do not. It goes without saying that it is patently wrong. 
Morality is arbitrary, really.

But some reasoning would be nice,

because "huh uh I hate"

is a really short conversation.
Topic's author
#20
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 352
Posts: 10,342
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@n8nrgim
@ADreamOfLiberty
I like how people remember consent only when its about sex.
#21
ADreamOfLiberty
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,989
3
2
2
ADreamOfLiberty's avatar
ADreamOfLiberty
3
2
2
-->
@Best.Korea
I like how people remember consent only when its about sex.
I don't. Our moral culture could do with a lot more worrying about consent.

It could also do with a lot less "Morality is arbitrary, really."

People may prove their professed morality arbitrary by not giving a shit about contradictions in it, but that's a flaw with their theory not the concept itself. I see it no differently than failing a math test and saying "math answers are arbitrary, really". Yea, when you get it wrong and don't care.
Topic's author
#22
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 352
Posts: 10,342
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@ADreamOfLiberty
Our moral culture could do with a lot more worrying about consent
Sadly, the moral culture is such that we go with whatever feels good at the time.
Kinda like smoking. Its basically a slow expensive suicide, but no one cares enough to stop you.
#23
IlDiavolo
IlDiavolo's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,470
3
2
5
IlDiavolo's avatar
IlDiavolo
3
2
5
Though Welsh farmers are/were renowned for their proclivities.
Hummm... I heard a lot of stories about farmers banging their animals all over the world. Muslims do it with their goats, for example, that's why they're known as goat fuckers. It seems that we men can't help it when we have no other option.

If you get lost in an Island with another guy, you both have to help each other in this matter. Lol.