What was Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ?

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Whatwas Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ? 


’ Mohammadclaims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were already there with him at his time -Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were there with him confirminghis very exact message. ‘’

Yet we see the Muslims of his day running around frantically, in a frenziedreverence just to go about scratching and etching upon stones, bark, wood, andanimal skins, just to etch and scrawl something down that was already writtenin the Torah and Gospels.

All they had to do was go to a village or a city just a few miles away and makea copy and translate the scriptures. Yet, Islam goes through this entireprocess - of "" Re - Processing "" all of this informationthrough another spiritual entity called " Gee - briel “ an angel “ andMohammud is making the claim that all of this information was already writtendown and with them in the very same exact land where they lived. inTorah and Gospels -

as an already existing written book and an existing faith that was vindicatingIslam


MOAHMMAUD HAD THE TORAH AND GOSPELS WITH HIM - all around him in thevery land where he lived

and yet, his followers go around scrawling and scratching and etching onleaves, bark, wood and sticks, and rocks and skins, something that was alreadysupposed to be in the same area where they lived. In The Torah and Gospels. Howis this something revelatory or prophetic as "" revelations,"" to repeat stories and passages of a book that already supposedlyalready exists and is well known and spread to hundreds of thousands or people- just a few miles away from Mohammud's very doorstep ?

Surah 94: “ So, (O prophet,) EVEN IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT about what We have sentdown to you, ASK THOSE WHO READ THE BOOK (revealed) before you. Surely, truthhas come to you from your Lord, so NEVER BE AMONG THOSE who are suspicious.”

Here, the Quran is commanding people to believe in the Torah and Gospels andtake these books as God's word and as truth, and to not be among those - whoare suspicious…..

Yet, all the Muslims had to do was simply take a short journey and walk to anearby city or ask among the passing caravans for a copy of the scriptures, yetthey don’t do that….

instead they use Mohammad to contact some unknown, unseen spiritual identity -to tell them what a book says that already exists all around them - just a fewmiles from their doorstep.

Mohammad claims to be going about reciting the Torah and Gospels and throughouthis whole life, Muslims are depicted as to clinging to every single last word
Mohammud is repeatedly continually demanding ! - - LOOK - CHECK - look CONFIRM- in the Torah and Gospels - this is my very message - my message is the sameexact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. -

HOW DOES THIS PROCESS MAKE SOMEONE A PROPHET - with revelation

- he is not even claiming or demonstrating to be prophesying and foretellingand revealing something that is unknown and showing people somethingthat is unknown and needs to be revealed...... Mohammud's claim and very words in the Qurancontinually repeat the same message saying that " my very Islamicmessage - my message, is the same exact message that is alsoconfirmed in the Torah and Gospels. "

Is this process truly confirming something as prophecy and revelation and truthby taking the contents from one book that is available for everyone and thentranslating and copying them into another language. ?



In conclusion - I ask Muslims one question

what was it about the faith and belief system of the Jews where Mohammudlived that was in disobedience and against the core teachings of theQuran ?

I submit that there is not a single piece of any evidence that demonstratesthat the Jews where Mohammud lived were in conflict nor disagreement with thecore teachings of the Quran. in fact the Jews did not reject Mohammud’s corebasic message about God’s laws, the jews did not disagree with Mohammudabout the oneness of God =

the jews did not disagree with anything regarding the moral code of God and hislaws about idols and sin and the commandments of God.

so - what was Mohammud’s big problem with the jews ?

what was Mohammud upset with the jews about concerning their faith ?

the jews around Mohammud believed that God was one single God - thejews did not worship idols and other God’ s – in fact the jews aroundMohammud - they rejected that jesus was the son of God, thejews accepted every single last commandment that Mohammud concluded about basiccritical laws of God

Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with thejews,

the jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moralcode - every single commandment and every single critical core and basic lawand ordinance of God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed andbelieved.

Yet - Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that haveever existed on the planet.

Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews aroundMohammud failed to accept the laws of God or failed to believe and accept inthe moral code of every single last thing in the quran.

Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran



the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols,adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moralobligations of a faith.

in Fact - The Jews held to even a muchstricter law and teaching about not divorcing your wife for no just cause orreason

the jews accepted every single last core and basic commandment that Mohammudconcluded about basic critical laws of God - Mohammud mentions nothingabout moral or law disagreements that he had with the jews. The jews aroundMohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - everysingle commandment and every single critical core and basic law and ordinanceof God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed and believed.

Yet, Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that have everexisted on the planet.

Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews aroundMohammud failed to accept the laws of God within the Quran or failed to believeand accept in the core principles of moral code of everysingle last thing in the quran.

Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran ?




the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols,adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moralobligations of a faith
 was Mohamud'sdispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not buy and sellslaves and participate in the slave trade ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not capture womenand enslave them and and have sexual intercourse with these slaves without acondition of mutual love and and full agreement of marriage ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews because - the Jews did not practicetemporary short term " MUTTAH " marriages just for a few hours ordays of sexual gratification ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not teach thatdivorce for any reason was justified in the eyes of God ?


was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not beat theirwives when their wives disobeyed their husbands sexual demands and ?

Quran 4:34) for those women on whose part ye fear rebellion, admonish them andbanish them to beds apart, (and last) beat them. Then, if they obey you, seeknot a way against them.


the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols,adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moralobligations of ones faith

but yet Mohammud demands that the Jews are considered the most horrible andworst of all creatures upon the earth.

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But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 

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Cut and paste nonsense.



But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.
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But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?

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  It's actually, Muhammad.
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Cut and paste nonsense.
But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?
It comes from being knowledgeable about the subject matter, you should try it some time.
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Cut and paste nonsense.
But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?
It comes from being knowledgeable about the subject matter, you should try it some time.
I see. 
Then you will have absolutely no problem addressing the OP's questions will you.  Which up to now, you have simply dismissed as "nonsense" without a single piece of evidence.

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Cut and paste nonsense.
But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?
It comes from being knowledgeable about the subject matter, you should try it some time.
I see. 
Then you will have absolutely no problem addressing the OP's questions will you.  Which up to now, you have simply dismissed as "nonsense" without a single piece of evidence.

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Cut and paste nonsense.
But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?
It comes from being knowledgeable about the subject matter, you should try it some time.
I see. 
Then you will have absolutely no problem addressing the OP's questions will you.  Which up to now, you have simply dismissed as "nonsense" without a single piece of evidence.
Sorry kiddie, I'm afraid you are gonna have to be the expert on both nonsense and Mohammud LOL
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Cut and paste nonsense.
But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?
It comes from being knowledgeable about the subject matter, you should try it some time.
I see. 
Then you will have absolutely no problem addressing the OP's questions will you.  Which up to now, you have simply dismissed as "nonsense" without a single piece of evidence.
Sorry kiddie, I'm afraid you are gonna have to be the expert on both nonsense and Mohammud LOL

So from the very beginning you have had absolutely no intention or interest in responding to the OP's questions that have  been posed  to the likes of you that claim to be "knowledgeable on this particular "subject matter". 

 You should be banned just for admitting that you are only on this forum to stir shit and cause conflict and have no interest in conversation or discussion even when it concerns your own claimed "knowledge and expertise" in this particular "subject matter".  
I suppose you don't mind looking like a complete bellend!🤣
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Cut and paste nonsense.
But no less valid questions, regardless of their source. 
Except for being made up nonsense.

I see. And you know this how, exactly?
It comes from being knowledgeable about the subject matter, you should try it some time.
I see. 
Then you will have absolutely no problem addressing the OP's questions will you.  Which up to now, you have simply dismissed as "nonsense" without a single piece of evidence.
Sorry kiddie, I'm afraid you are gonna have to be the expert on both nonsense and Mohammud LOL

So from the very beginning you have had absolutely no intention or interest in responding to the OP's questions that have  been posed  to the likes of you that claim to be "knowledgeable on this particular "subject matter". 

 You should be banned just for admitting that you are only on this forum to stir shit and cause conflict and have no interest in conversation or discussion even when it concerns your own claimed "knowledge and expertise" in this particular "subject matter".  
I suppose you don't mind looking like a complete bellend!🤣
LOL, another whiney baby tantrum, just how old are you little one.