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AKmath

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Topic

#947

Messi is better than Ronaldo.

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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Winner

After 4 votes and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...

AKmath

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Publication date: 05.22.2019 12:36AM
Last updated date: 06.21.2019 07:49PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 4
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

MaryJoseph

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Messi is better than Ronaldo. Prove me wrong.

Round 1

AKmath

06.02.2019 06:51PM

Pro

Forfeited

MaryJoseph

06.04.2019 06:51PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 2

AKmath

06.06.2019 06:51PM

Pro

Forfeited

MaryJoseph

06.08.2019 06:51PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 3

AKmath

06.08.2019 07:49PM

Pro

Why Messi is better.

- Higher goal ratio(the number of goals divided by the number of games). Messi scores every 100 minutes, while Ronaldo is 112.

- Technical Ability

- Speed

- Creativity

- Passing

- Defense - WhoScored.com

"In the 2016-17 La Liga season, Ronaldo was more likely to commit a foul than generate an interception and produce a successful tackle. He had 0.6 fouls per match, compared to 0.3 interceptions per match and just 0.2 tackles. Messi had much better defensive metrics than Ronaldo. He committed only 0.4 fouls per game but was more likely to generate a tackle (0.7 per game). Those are La Liga numbers, but both players had consistent numbers in the Champions League as well. Messi’s defensive ranking last season was 8.42 (out of 10), while Ronaldo’s was just 7.61."

- Team play, 248 assists

- Discipline

Ronaldo - 131 yellow, 9 red

Messi - 68, ONE highly criticized (many pundits call unfair) red card

- Accuracy WhoScored.com

"Ronaldo scored 25 goals in 2016-17 but needed 5.6 shots per game to achieve them (160 total). In contrast, Messi scored 37 goals on fewer shot attempts, notching just 5.3 attempts per game (178 total). Those shooting percentages work out to about 21 percent for Messi, and just 16 percent for Ronaldo."

- Better at scoring free kicks

GOAT at scoring free kicks

Scores 8.5% of free kicks

Ronaldinho scored 7.3%

Ronaldo - 6.3%

- Tied for strength

- Better crossing

- Charity

Lionel Messi Foundation, UNICEF

- So yeah

MaryJoseph

06.10.2019 07:49PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 4

AKmath

06.12.2019 07:49PM

Pro

Forfeited

MaryJoseph

06.14.2019 07:49PM

Con

Forfeited

Barney

05.31.2019 09:06PM

#20

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@MaryJoseph

If you keep coming back this should be a free win for you, as AKmath seems to have dropped off this site in the middle of debates.

Vader

05.30.2019 09:15PM

#19

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@AKmath

Messi is a more clutch players than Ronaldo but skill wise Ronaldo is overall better

JasonGrace

05.27.2019 09:18PM

#18

According to these stats Messi is better: http://messivsronaldo.net/ But, in my opinion they're both good and I like them both.

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 04:00AM

#17

Well.. It like paradise on earth.. You should visit resorts of Maldives.. So beautiful and natural.. One visit and you never want to leave..

oromagi

05.25.2019 02:49AM

#16

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@Twilightzi

don't be sorry it was only a guess. Just wiki'd Maldives and Male- I have never seen a city quite like that before. What a cool and interesting place it looks.

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 02:37AM

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@oromagi

Ummmm Karachi what? Sorry but I am from Maldives

oromagi

05.25.2019 02:35AM

#14

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@Twilightzi

I guess Karachi

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 01:59AM

#13

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@Dr.Franklin

Same.. I would have debated but Mom's going to go wild if she sees me with my tablet.. It's morning 06 59 to me

Dr.Franklin

05.25.2019 01:57AM

#12

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@Twilightzi

Indeed. Thats why I haven't debated a lot here. Just getting in comment wars

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 01:56AM

#11

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@Dr.Franklin

Looks like we are in the same shoe

Dr.Franklin

05.25.2019 01:55AM

#10

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@Twilightzi

Yeah...makes sense I got finals too.

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 01:46AM

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@Dr.Franklin

I don't know whether I will have time.. My exams are pretty close and I have to fill some forms to collage.. I will decide tonight.. Just woke up

Dr.Franklin

05.25.2019 01:44AM

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@Twilightzi

Yeah go ahead and debate. This is what the website was made for

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 01:41AM

Well.. Ronaldo won more gold boots than Messi and is the best player EVER in football.. His Physical and mental strength compared to Messi is higher. His level of jumps is higher than any other players in the world and all that.. He's the richest football player owning a private jet in gold.. Also he is the most important player of all time in football...
Started learning about Ronaldo since grade 5.. Never missed one of his matches.. He's my favourite player in football

Barney

05.25.2019 01:32AM

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@Twilightzi

Try! ... Bare in mind, pro is the one with the real burden of proof. If you so much as cast sufficient doubt on Messi being objectively better (as a human being, humanitarian works, whatever...), you win.

Twilightzi

05.25.2019 12:56AM

Well.. I can say Ronaldo is way better than Messi.. But I don't know whether I can prove that...

Dr.Franklin

05.25.2019 12:48AM

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@AKmath

I agree

Barney

05.23.2019 04:58PM

Ah, football.
Here's a useful source for information on them (this is actually a truism debate): https://michelacosta.com/en/messi-vs-ronaldo/

AKmath