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Topic
#617

Marx's analysis of capitalism was mostly accurate.

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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Better arguments
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6
Better sources
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4
Better legibility
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2
Better conduct
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2

After 2 votes and with the same amount of points on both sides...

It's a tie!
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@Type1

Hey, I just discovered PragerU. An insignificant historical footnote. That's exactly the language I'd use for Marx. Capitalism is as useful as it is and is always present even in the communist utopian world constructed my Marx's enlightened religious dogma.

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@RationalMadman

There is nothing fine about treating Marxism like an insignificant historical footnote which is easy to debunk. I can already tell she has no understanding of Marxism or even capitalism for that matter, she is going to spew a bunch of crap that you'd expect to hear on PragerU most likely.
If I can't even present her with a brief synopsis of why capitalism sucks without her complaining about deviating from the debate title I can tell this is going to be a shit fest.

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@Type1

that's no way to speak to this fine lady.

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@Titanium

Disagreeing with Marx is one thing, but anyone who thinks they can "destroy" Marxism is an idiot. Only a brainwashed moron with a completely warped view of Marxism takes it so lightly. Marx's analysis of capitalism is extensive, far too extensive to entirely cover in this debate, and if you had one tenth the intelligence that it takes to attempt to "destroy" something that is in large part objectively correct then you would understand why participating in this debate requires you to at least understand what capitalism is. This first round was an IQ test and you've failed it. I expect you to regurgitate a bunch of fallacies and propaganda you absorbed from mainstream media now so get on with it.

your title was heavily dependent on Marx. I only need to destroy his view to get a win.

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@Titanium

How am I not sticking to my debate title? I am explaining why capitalism is crap and showing you how Marxists see capitalism.

Cool, you're not sticking to your debate title. Personally, I think capitalism is helpful and necessary. I'll try to castrate Marx in my argument as I don't think he was particularly thoughtful in general. Remember, your resolution is about Marx and his view.

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@Type1

I'm not a fan of Marx's Communist Manifesto, which reads like a religious document, or am I convinced his demonization of capitalism which is essentially confirmed as the most efficient system to utilize market resources no matter what general form of government is used. Still, I am looking forward to your response.

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@justincole

That's a long story and if you have to ask this probably isn't the debate for you unless you're looking for a strictly educational experience rather than a debate win. The short version is that capitalism necessitates exploitation, benefits the corrupt at the expense of the innocent and is prone to all sorts of problems that can only be fixed with Socialism. If you have any questions I will try to answer but if you want a truly thorough understanding you will have to read mountains of books. I can recommend some to you if you'd like.

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@Type1

What was his vision of capitalism?