Instigator / Pro

gannoncorpora

1500

rating

debates

0.0%

won

Topic

#5612

Abortion should be illegal

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Winner

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Americandebater24

Parameters

Publication date: 07.25.2024 01:44PM
Last updated date: 10.13.2024 04:19PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: One week
Max argument characters: 450
Voting period: Two months
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Americandebater24

1442

rating

debates

58.65%

won

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Round 1

gannoncorpora

07.26.2024 12:21PM

Pro

At the moment of conception, a new human being is created. All human beings have rights. The supreme right is the right to life. This right is a prerequisite for all other rights, as no other right can be exercised without it.

Americandebater24

07.26.2024 03:02PM

Con

Unborn children do not have a right to life. All rights are reserved for a person after birth, not before. The U.S. Constitution also does not grant people a right to live; it only outlines the conditions that must be followed before depriving a citizen of life. Abortion is also not a federal issue. It is now a state issue due to the recent ruling of Dobs V. Jackson. We, therefore, cannot make abortion illegal.

Round 2

gannoncorpora

07.30.2024 01:07PM

Pro

Thebelief that any human, born or preborn, has differing rights than another human, implies that the lives of some are less valuable than the lives of others. There are manyclaims about what gives value to human life, such as, "the value of a human life arises after birth". However, the claims are all matters of opinion, and therefore, subjective. It is a necessityfor a just society to draw a line in the most objective place possible.

Americandebater24

07.30.2024 02:46PM

Con

The difference in value between born and unborn children is not subjective, and abortion cannot be charged with murder under federal law. But you can be charged with murder if a born baby dies from your actions. Pro has not addressed legal points that establish Abortion cannot be made illegal as a universal law. Pro has also failed to substantiate their position. I, on the other hand, have provided ample sources to prove my point.

Round 3

gannoncorpora

08.02.2024 12:38AM

Pro

Born or unborn, they both have the right to live. It's not a question of whether abortion can be charged under federal law as murder. It is a question of whether the law should change, and the answer is a resounding yes, because society has a responsibility to protect those that cannot protect themselves. The U.S. does not have a "universal law" though you may construe the Constitution, its amendments, or other federal laws to be "universal".

Americandebater24

08.03.2024 03:29AM

Con

Given that the Pro has not specified the jurisdiction, it is assumed they are referring to federal law, as that would be the only way for something to be universally illegal under all circumstances. The Constitution does not explicitly address the issue of abortion. Pro can't prove that unborn babies have rights and thus cannot say society has to protect them. unborn children are not citizens and thus do not have a right to life or anything else.

Round 4

gannoncorpora

08.10.2024 03:29AM

Pro

Forfeited

Americandebater24

08.12.2024 01:28PM

Con

As my opponent forfeited this round, I will await their response or conclusion argument in the final round.

Round 5

gannoncorpora

08.12.2024 07:56PM

Pro

Federal law is indeed what is being referred to, as was stated in round 3. It is not a question of whether the Constitution does explicitly address the issue of abortion, but rather, whether the Constitution (or it's amendments) should explicitly address the issue of abortion. The answer to that is yes, because human life is inherently valuable, and society has a duty to protect those that cannot protect themselves; especially the innocent.

Americandebater24

08.14.2024 04:19PM

Con

#10

My opponent seeks a federal abortion ban based on personal belief. However, constitutional rights require birth. Unborn children don’t qualify. States should also have a say in abortion laws Moreover, my opponent lacks a concrete strategy. Their entire argument essentially reduces to a personal desire to outlaw it, rather than an objective rationale grounded in legal principles. Abortion should not be made illegal. It should be a state decision.

Barney

07.30.2024 04:25PM

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@gannoncorpora

I once had someone take that values argument way too far. Glad to see such an argument when it's still within the sensible region.

gannoncorpora

07.30.2024 01:16PM

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@Americandebater24

Debates have the tendency to go off in multiple directions at once. This tendency is extremely counterproductive to a proper debate. For this reason, the number of characters is low, which has a great effect on keeping the conversation focused. In addition to this, as Albert Einstein famously said, "If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.”

Americandebater24

07.26.2024 03:03PM

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@gannoncorpora

In the future, please give people ample characters to work with. Four hundred and fifty words is too short.

gannoncorpora

07.26.2024 12:20PM

@Barney Without exception. If there were one, it would've be mentioned.

Barney

07.25.2024 07:30PM

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@gannoncorpora

All or just some

I suggest pre-defining exceptions (otherwise they invalidate your argument)
Plus when in pregnancy it should be illegal.

Best.Korea

07.25.2024 02:23PM

Seriously, everyone on this Earth is stupid except me and few others, so life for me is just torture.

Best.Korea

07.25.2024 01:51PM

I wish I was aborted.

Barney

08.27.2024 10:32PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro makes some nice assertions that he believes all living things have the equal rights, but con makes arguments with the backing of authority. A bit of a K to the topic, more of ambiguous, but that still takes the day.