Instigator / Con
0
1465
rating
31
debates
59.68%
won
Topic
#5570
Trans people should have the rights of their assumed gender
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After not so many votes...
It's a tie!
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Rated
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- Two days
- Max argument characters
- 5,000
- Voting period
- One month
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
- Minimal rating
- None
Contender / Pro
0
1498
rating
32
debates
67.19%
won
Description
Burden of proof is shared.
Pro must argue that trans people should be able to use bathrooms of the gender they identify as, and that they should be able to do the same with sporting competitions.
This is not a debate of whether or not transgenderism is good or bad in itself. It is just about the previously mentioned.
I was on the road today and tried to finish reading/listening to this, but signal strength was insufficient.
Do you still have that vote saved?
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>Reported Vote: SocraticGregarian96 // Mod action: Removed
>Voting Policy: info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy
>Points Awarded: 7 to con
>Reason for Decision: "cons arguments were longer, more fact-based and empirical, with trustworthy sources. Pro also resortes to baseless insults such as homophobe and bigot."
>Reason for Mod Action:
In essence, this vote was just too vague... This can be avoided in future by just commenting on the core contention (and the main counterpoint or the lack thereof), listing a single source you found important (if voting sources), saying what conduct violation distracted you (if voting conduct)... You need not write a thesis, but some minimal level of detail is required to verify knowledge of what you're grading.
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Doesn't explain spelling and grammar
I'm getting tired, but got most of a vote prepped... I am of course curious if Wyited can take back the initiative in the final round.
Ones rights end where they interfere with another, simple but solid opening.
"my argument is, they get what they deserve."
*facepalm*
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Pew research, great source; 7 point lead from it... Quite significant, but sure, maybe not overwhelming as stated.
The NPR one was less effective. It begs the question of if it's the same on the other side, which would just cancel out the impacts.
Pathos appeal of think of the children is a bad one when I see it, but most voters will be moved.
Wyited wants to ban midgets, he talks for roughly an hour about just that... Thankfully it was a very short hour at like four minutes, and most of it was disguised talking about the topic.
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Con pushes back on the Pew research, with astutely valid points (I'm a data scientist, so the actual numbers have shined through this whole time).
The women voting for Biden bit is another case of taking things a bit too far (granted, one should during a debate). It's another data point to build a picture; but it of course does not override all others. And yes, indeed the cause could be misunderstood. And yup, Pew is a better source, even if not the only.
I'd prefer if you changed the description into saying, "in most cases".
What would you say in the case of them using gender affirming care?