Instigator / Pro
13
1493
rating
17
debates
35.29%
won
Topic
#5484
R. Kelly should be remembered for his artistic triumphs as opposed to his criminal behavior
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 2 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...
ihadsexok
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Rated
- Number of rounds
- 5
- Time for argument
- One week
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- Two months
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
- Minimal rating
- None
Contender / Con
10
1442
rating
47
debates
55.32%
won
Description
R. Kelly's legacy should be more concerned with his incredible contributions to the music world at large as opposed to minor missteps in his personal life.
Removed the following vote by user request.
It is conduct only to con.
It also piggybacks another vote (two or more votes could have the same reasoning, but should still point to it individually with each voters words to describe the matter).
I cannot promise they'll never be removed, but intuitively I support single point protest votes.
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Owen_T
07.07.2024 09:07PM
I agree with Baggins completely. American debater was, in my opinion, completely justified to drop out of this debate.
Regarding our earlier conversation, this vote falls less into the problem areas of voting based on outside content. It's a conduct only protest vote, not trying to have any impact on the outcome. If reported it'll be deleted, but then you could just make it your own vote with your own description and interpretation of the facts of the debate and revote with that (regardless of it they're similar to another vote; especially on a debate like this there really won't be that much variance).
Given how this debate played out, the general lack of argumentation, and the flippant tone, I'd say it can be safely treated as a troll debate or at least a full forfeit. You've given reasons for awarding the conduct point, which is more than enough given the circumstances, so I'm not going to remove the vote.
I’m on my way back from a vacation, I’ll take a look at this when I get a chance.
I’m saying my vote might be eligible for removal because Im not sure how exactly Im allowed to vote in a situation like this. Am I allowed to not consider PROs first round statement as an argument and vote bad conduct for flippant debate approach?
To be completely fair, presenting a song is connected to the topic but that alone by itself with absolutely no elaboration of any kind doesn’t lead me to the resolution the title looks for. And hardly anyone can consider it an argument.
Pro made an argument that has not been rebutted.