Instigator / Pro

Best.Korea

1250

rating

394

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39.59%

won

Topic

#5139

There are no poor people in capitalism

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 1 vote and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...

Benjamin

Parameters

Publication date: 12.24.2023 06:54PM
Last updated date: 01.09.2024 03:16PM
Type: Rated
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open
Minimal rating: None

Contender / Con

Benjamin

1774

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77.55%

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Round 1

Best.Korea

12.25.2023 02:44PM

Pro

Where are the poor people?

Benjamin

12.26.2023 01:38AM

Con

Number of families living below the poverty line in the United States from 1990 to 2022

https://www.statista.com/statistics/204743/number-of-poor-families-in-the-us/

Round 2

Best.Korea

12.26.2023 02:26PM

Pro

Thats not poverty. Those losers have food, and if they dont its their fault for not having a job.

Benjamin

12.26.2023 02:35PM

Con

Even if every single poor person in capitalism was just lazy, they would still exist. PRO has the burden of proof to show that no poor people exist in capitalism.

Round 3

Best.Korea

12.26.2023 02:56PM

Pro

I said

IN CAPITALISM.

In order to be in capitalism, you need to be a buyer or seller, so you cannot be poor if you are either of those.

Benjamin

12.26.2023 03:16PM

Con

What you said makes no sense, economies are capitalist, not individual transactions. Furthermore, the living people under the poverty line are still at the very least food buyers.

AudraE

01.07.2024 05:05AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

CON gave the only source and while PRO tried to rebut it was ineffective and easily defended by the CON. I agree that the PRO has the burden of proof, and PRO did not sufficiently convince me that there is no one in poverty whereas CON sent me a card talking about the people in poverty.