Instigator / Pro

Best.Korea

1250

rating

393

debates

39.57%

won

Topic

#5120

Bible is wrong and stupid

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 3 votes and with 16 points ahead, the winner is...

hey-yo

Parameters

Publication date: 12.07.2023 01:52PM
Last updated date: 12.27.2023 02:04AM
Type: Rated
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open
Minimal rating: None

Contender / Con

hey-yo

1493

rating

debates

60.0%

won

Description

No information

Round 1

Best.Korea

12.08.2023 12:21PM

Pro

Let me explain it in a simple way. Bible is stupid. Like, half of it is just God killing people.

Bible is also wrong. It says do to others as you would have them do to you. Terrible life advice.

hey-yo

12.09.2023 02:32PM

Con

Ok. Here we go. ..

Thanks for debate to b.k.

Thanks to anyone reading.

To start, we do not have much to go on. B.k. presents simple but ambiguous claims. No evidence to help us navigate their logic to b.k.'s conclusion / claim for wrongness and stupidity.

1. Bible. We are probably safe to assume bible refers to the christian holy book known as the Bible. Although some use the term bible for other books (i.e. Hebrew/Jewish bible), these occur less often and include other words within a title. So let's just acknowledge that. B.k. can correct us if incorrect.

2. Is Stupid.

2A.

We need a measurement for what is stupid and to clarify if this is an objective truth. If a thing is stupid based on subjective opinion then the statement "bible is not stupid," is true and valid.

If we are to believe that there is objective truth to the given claim, then we need more then just evidence for the claim. We need to know how it is an objective truth.

In either case there seems to be only one example. Is this the only bases to look at?

2b God kills people.

B.k., are you referencing a moral wrong?

Is this objective or subjective?

Why should we believe that a god killing is wrong?

I do wish to point out that although the quantity of kills may not accurately represent b.k. expression of "half the bible" - half the bible is new testiment where god does not kill - the morr important question involves the act in killing. We can focus on that.

3. Bible is wrong.

Does this refer to christian bible being correct vs. incorrect? Are we pointing out a moral right vs. moral wrong?

4. says do to others as you would have them do to you.

Some say this is good advice. Per argument, lets assume the given statement is in the bible. Why is this phrase bad advice?

Is this advice "bad" based on an objectivity or subjectivity?

Round 2

Best.Korea

12.11.2023 02:32PM

Pro

Forfeited

hey-yo

12.12.2023 02:10PM

Con

An example would help understand pro position.

Extend

Round 3

Best.Korea

12.12.2023 03:11PM

Pro

Extend

hey-yo

12.13.2023 02:04AM

Con

Looks like no debate here. I'll leave with food for thought. A response to a question, did God command genocide?

I researched a few things and looking to tie everything in but now I can just post it.

https://youtu.be/BPdRImIGBVg?feature=shared

rat727

12.07.2023 05:13PM

it be like that sometimes

cock

12.07.2023 05:12PM

Ok lets debate then

Best.Korea

12.07.2023 05:12PM

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@cock

I made other debate which you can accept, my unqualified friend.

cock

12.07.2023 05:11PM

I dont have the qualifications. That's what it says which is crazy sense I'm the most qualified guy here

Best.Korea

12.07.2023 05:09PM

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@cock

@rat727

I made unrated debate. Accept it.

cock

12.07.2023 05:09PM

The bible is good and not stupid case closed, we're done here baby

rat727

12.07.2023 05:04PM

make unrated or bald

Best.Korea

12.07.2023 05:02PM

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@cock

Accept the debate pussy

cock

12.07.2023 04:58PM

How am I supposed to take you seriously when you have a femboy profile picture? You're a fucking loser and a clown to me.

Math_Enthusiast

12.15.2023 05:56PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro didn't really make an argument, and didn't have any sources. I am also giving Con the conduct point because of Pro's lack of participation and forfeiture.

Barney

12.13.2023 04:08PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Foregone conclusion and forfeit

Americandebater24

12.13.2023 07:40AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Con wins the debate because, unlike Pro, Con gave a stronger argument by pointing out that the topic is not well clarified. Pro gives little to no argument and even forfeits at one point. Con also provided a source. Pro, in contrast, has no sources. Lastly, Con presented better conduct by actually participating in the debate.