Instigator / Con

RationalMadman

1702

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574

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Topic

#453

Electronic Music Battle Rematch (cannot use opponent's songs of last debate)

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Winner

After 3 votes and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman

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Publication date: 12.19.2018 08:01PM
Last updated date: 01.08.2019 02:33PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 13,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Pro

Mharman

1421

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Description

https://www.debateart.com/debates/431

^ THE ONLY RULE is that neither user is allowed to use a song the the opponent used in this particular debate in the actual debate (so not comments section or something).

Vote for whose songs you liked overall. You are absolutely flexible and free in your scoring method. Yes, this opens to troll voting but we must hope the site is noble enough.

Round 1

RationalMadman

12.19.2018 08:04PM

Con

Just to specify when i say 'only rule' it doesn't mean there isn't also the rule that it has to be electronic music and 1 per round. The previous debate rules all apply it's a rematch.

Omri - Save Me

Best of luck to opponent. :D

Mharman

12.20.2018 02:16PM

Pro

I'm going to open with this one:

Teminite & Panda Eyes - Highscore

Good luck to my opponent as well. :)

Round 2

RationalMadman

12.20.2018 02:24PM

Con

2Scratch & Drama B - Last Man Standing

Mharman

12.20.2018 02:44PM

Pro

Pegboard Nerds - Try This

Round 3

RationalMadman

12.20.2018 03:47PM

Con

Ava Max - Sweet But Psycho (Morgan Page Remix)

Mharman

12.20.2018 05:48PM

Pro

Let's get in that Christmas spirit!

The Living Tombstone - Carol of the Bells Remix

Round 4

RationalMadman

12.20.2018 05:55PM

Con

This is quite a position i've been put in. If I don't respond with a Christmas song voters may be skewed in favour of Con but if I do, I'll be settling for less.

I wish all a merry Christmas but it is not at all correct for me to sacrifice quality for time-of-debate theme in my eyes and I hope that people realise all the best Christmas songs are poppy with too many natural elements to the song or acoustic to use here.

Stephen - Crossfire (KC Audio Remix)

Mharman

12.21.2018 01:05PM

Pro

Dimrain47 - At the Speed of Light

Round 5

RationalMadman

12.21.2018 01:19PM

Con

Axel Thesleff - Eco

Fascinatingly soothing eccentric piece. Yes, it IS electronic what you are hearing is altered acoustics, it's not the natural sound of the instruments necessarily especially the 'flute' sound you hear but just let it soak you.

Mharman

12.21.2018 01:22PM

Pro

#10

The Boss is back!

Destroid - Annihilate

breakingamber

01.08.2019 02:33PM

#21

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@Mharman

Why did you want me to get in here?

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 09:42PM

#20

On second thought, it might be more appropriate to award Round 5 to neither party. But Mharman would still be the winner.

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 09:36PM

#19

Round 5: Mharman. Didn't particularly like either, but Mharman's was slightly more interesting. I can see RM was trying to go with something beautiful, but in my opinion he could've done a lot better than he did. For example, a well-done electronic version of something of the Celtic music genre (that is, an electronic version which does not detract from the beauty of such). Back on DDO it was I think Mishapqueen who once posted a link to something of that nature, and it was a delight to listen to.

In any case, I'd clearly peg Mharman as the winner of this debate. Not sure whether I'm actually going to cast a vote, as it's possible that the Mods wouldn't be satisfied with the stated criteria behind my decision.

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 09:32PM

#18

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@RationalMadman

You are 100℅ entitled to your opinion on the matter. However, this debate is largely a matter of personal preferences, and as a potential voter I'm telling what I think.

RationalMadman

12.26.2018 09:31PM

#17

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@Swagnarok

I don't really think you are correct on your judgements.

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 09:22PM

#16

Round 4: Mharman. RM's piece had some good lyrics, but Mharman's submission for this round was dope. "Good", even. If the two of you picked more stuff like that, I'd be more enthused about judging these kinds of debates.

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 09:12PM

#15

Round 3: Narrow win for Mharman, because I like that song and the screen was showing something other than a gross chick with her tongue sticking out, though your rendition of the piece wasn't the best by any stretch of the imagination.

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 09:02PM

#14

Round 2: Hated them both. Tie.

Swagnarok

12.26.2018 08:54PM

#13

Round 1: Mharman.

Mharman

12.26.2018 05:57PM

#12

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@Type1

@Vader

Votes needed.

Mharman

12.26.2018 05:56PM

#11

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@Outplayz

@Swagnarok

@David

@Raltar

@Kamikaze

Plz vote.

Barney

12.25.2018 07:38AM

#10

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@RationalMadman

Just the one song, and it's a very subjective stylistic thing. One singer was doing a flat low toned mumble I could rarely understand.

RationalMadman

12.25.2018 07:12AM

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@Barney

Why did my songs irritate you so much?

RationalMadman

12.25.2018 07:12AM

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@Barney

on DDO this exact side switching can happen. Admittedly there the name alters not just the colour.

Barney

12.25.2018 06:55AM

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@RationalMadman

Yeah, sorry for the confusion. Leftover habit from DDO.

RationalMadman

12.25.2018 05:22AM

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@Barney

I think you are referring to me as Pro?

Barney

12.25.2018 05:01AM

R1 to pro.
R2 to con (I did not care for the vocals in pro's choice).
R3 to con (Christmas cats put it over).
R4 tied.
R5 to con (liked the dark feel of that choice a little more).

However, not casting a vote as I don't view this as a debate per se...

Vaarka

12.21.2018 06:29PM

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@Mharman

Make sure to ping me again later. I want to listen to the songs but won't be available until tonight or tomorrow.

Mharman

12.21.2018 01:51PM

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@Vaarka

@blamonkey

@Vader

@breakingamber

get in here

RationalMadman

12.21.2018 01:23PM

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@Type1

@McSloth

enjoy

RationalMadman

12.21.2018 01:23PM

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@Outplayz

@David

@Ramshutu

@Raltar

@Kamikaze

Bless your souls and ears. Seems neither of us repeated our own even though we could!

Bifolkal

12.23.2018 02:44PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Wow I've never listened to this much electronic music before, so this was really my first time ever. I have to say that the consistent rhythm in Pro's music put me in a dancing kind of mood and I started to boogy a little bit. That is not to say that Con's music was bad, in fact that Ava Max song is really catchy and driving and I almost voted there, but the Dimrain song and the Destroid song made me feel like I was on cocaine, at least the dimrain song because of how fast it was...all things considered like beat, feel, melody/lead tune, driving bass, Pro's songs sounded better and put me in an electronic kind of mood, and I don't even listen to this stuff. Fun debate guys, I'm voting Pro.

Ramshutu

12.23.2018 03:03AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro: Omari - save me. Has a tiny feel of Royksopp about it, asside from vocals. I like the chilled feel of this: 7

2 scratch and Drama B - this is not my favourite style of electronic, and is much more like commercial pseudo-r&b, to me, it was instantly forgettable, and I kinda tuned out. 3.

Ava max: typical vocal electronic music. The vocals were okay, but had didnt a particularly good electronic underpinning, made it sound like a throwaway pop song: 5.

Crossfire: I felt this one was okay, it was a little forgettable, but had a reasonable hook. 6

Axel theself: awesome track, I really enjoyed this one. Had a lot of intricacy, and as a more chill out form of electionic, very much had the different layers and depths you need when lying on the bedroom floor at 5:30am. I really enjoyed this one: 8.

Total: 29

Termite&panda eyes - highscore: had a little of a madeon feel to it, thought the main riff was good, but not as catchy as say grand finale, great variation though, I genuinely liked this song. 7

Pegboard nerd. Very “music for the jilted generation” industrial vibe to it once you get into the main theme, I felt the theme wasn’t that catchy, but it’s a pretty fun song: 6.

Living tombstone: I don’t mind remixes of non-EDM: popiholla by chicane is a perfect example - this was an abomination. I hated this song more than anything. Part of me wants to award a loss just for hearing this: 1

Dimrain: this was like if Alt-4 was played at 170bpm. Reminded me of the fire and flame track from guitar hero 3. It would have been better if slower, I can’t say I rate this one that highly: 4

Destroid: this is a good old fashioned middle of the road 2012 style EDM song, it lacked in hook and melody, and didn’t have anything exceptional to offer imo. If this song was a person, it would be a Keith: 5

Total: 23

Winner con.

Vaarka

12.23.2018 02:26AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

I have to say I'm biased b/c I'd heard half of the songs Pro posted, whereas I'd heard non of Con's songs, so it was a new experience through and through. I loved the songs from each side, but I found myself dancing a little more to Con's music. Of course I also loved Pro's choices, but Con seemed to choose more unique songs (for example, Pro's Christmas choice was good, but it was basically an electronic version of a Christmas song, which is fine but I kind of grew bored with it (though I liked the ending)). The songs began to die off towards the end, though I liked Pro's finale. Nonetheless, my vote has to go to Con. I preferred more of their songs in the end.

Thanks for some awesome music guys :3