Instigator / Pro

Best.Korea

1245

rating

395

debates

39.49%

won

Topic

#3971

Vaccines cause autism

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 3 votes and with 12 points ahead, the winner is...

Sir.Lancelot

Tags

Education

Parameters

Publication date: 12.18.2022 10:42AM
Last updated date: 01.23.2023 05:54PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Two weeks
Max argument characters: 30,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Sir.Lancelot

1587

rating

182

debates

55.77%

won

Description

Almost everyone has autism these days. My guess is its because of vaccines. The government injects reptile blood in us to make us stupid and autistic.

Round 1

Best.Korea

12.23.2022 11:05PM

Pro

The debate is about the fact that vaccines cause autism.

My opponent disagrees with this fact.

Let us begin our case with exposing vaccination for what it really is.

Premise 1:

Unwanted penetration of body is rape.

Premise 2:

Vaccination is unwanted penetration of body.

Conclusion:

Vaccination is rape.

Now that we have seen that vaccination is rape, let us examine the causation of autism by vaccines.

Premise 1:

Rape causes autism.

Premise 2:

Vaccination is rape.

Conclusion:

Vaccination causes autism.

Since vaccination is done by vaccines, it follows that vaccines cause autism.

Thus, the resolution is proven correct by Pro's master logic.

I have to say, I am very smart.

I dont like to brag, but I am so much better than you guys.

Like, you cant even touch me.

I am the best.

I am not bragging. I am merely stating facts.

I am in the whole other league of debating.

I could debate 20 opponents at the same time using just one hand, while masturbating with the other hand.

I could fry your arguments in 15 seconds.

Go ahead now, dont be afraid. Present us your arguments.

Sir.Lancelot

12.23.2022 11:54PM

Con

Pro's argument is more of a desperate attempt at being funny.

Edgy Humor- Humor that is made up of intentionally offensive ironic jokes that are told/posted for the shock value and/or the facetiousness of the subject.

Definitions:

Rape- Unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person.

Vaccination- The act or practice of vaccinating; inoculation with vaccine.

BOP:

Since Pro is making the claim that vaccines cause autism, it is therefore the requirement that they provide proof to back up said assertion.

Fallacious Arguments:

Appeal To Definition.
Reductio Ad Absurdum.

Sources: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com

https://www.dictionary.com

Round 2

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 09:29AM

Pro

Con did not present proof that vaccination isnt rape.

If Con surrenders and doesnt want to argue, I dont blame him.

I have presented the proper definition of rape.

If Con thinks that unwanted penetration of body is fine, one must wonder what kind of a person Con is.

In any case, I hope Con gives us proof in the following rounds.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 02:26PM

Con

I laid out the definitions which clearly explain rape and vaccinations aren’t the same.

Pro either has to find a way to prove that they are and explain how vaccines cause autism, or give up.

Round 3

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 02:40PM

Pro

My definitions say that vaccination is rape, and rape causes autism.

This is an undeniable fact.

Unwanted penetration of body is rape.

Maybe Con is into unwanted penetrations?

In any case, Con loses.

We shouldnt take seriously these Con's claims where he wants to change the definition of rape to suit his needs.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 03:07PM

Con

Most topic diversions are characteristic of a projection of some sort.

Most vaccinations are administered via injections through the arm with no sexual intent proceeding it.
You have yet to establish proof that vaccines cause autism.

Your time is almost up, Pro.

Round 4

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 03:38PM

Pro

In round 1, Pro proved that unwanted penetration of body is rape.

I had high hopes that Con will present an argument, however, that did not happen.

Maybe it will happen in the next round.

Go ahead, Con. Tell us why unwanted penetration of body isnt rape.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 04:24PM

Con

Round 5

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 04:55PM

Pro

It seems that Con has become unresponsive.

It is odd that someone would want to change the definition of rape.

So far Con has not explained to us why unwanted penetration is good for someone.

"Its not really rape" - Con says.

You know that unwanted penetration is wrong.

You just choose to pretend like you dont know.

You cant penetrate a person like that.

What if someone penetrated you against your will?

Its rape.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 05:54PM

Con

#10

I have to applaud Pro for keeping up this act for so long.

This is a mediocre character performance. It takes serious dedication to use the same schtick for months and not get anywhere.

I have little faith that your trolling gets better.

Best.Korea

01.10.2023 02:35PM

#25

Yeah, I will explain it to you immediatelly.

RationalMadman

01.09.2023 08:58PM

#24

What is a guilt trap? I voted against you.

Best.Korea

01.09.2023 05:41PM

#23

Were you trying to guilt me into liking you?
For your information, I was born without the feeling of guilt. I cant feel guilt. If I do something wrong, I blame it on others.

Nice guilt trap tho. Would work on most people.

Best.Korea

01.09.2023 05:38PM

#22

"it was intentional disrespect with Round 5 having direct abuse given to Pro in a mocking manner."

Direct abuse? I feel so abused. I am helpless.
Save me madman.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 06:42PM

#21

Yes, lets take your feelings into consideration.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 06:41PM

#20

You should really give up.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 06:31PM

#19

Yes, my goal should be to entertain you.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 06:06PM

#18

"My goal is not to entertain you, honey"

Good. Because you're not very successful at it.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 06:02PM

#17

My goal is not to entertain you, honey. Accept the defeat and stop crying.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 06:00PM

#16

At being consistently boring, yes.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 05:56PM

#15

I won this easily.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 03:49PM

#14

Are you old?

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 03:45PM

#13

You're 100% triggered.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 03:39PM

#12

Dont worry too much Con. You will grow old and die alone.

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 03:14PM

#11

It’s semi-difficult to treat this debate as a logical discussion but I welcome the challenge. We’re both playing roles when you think about it.:
1. You pretend to be funny.
2. I pretend to take you seriously.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 02:45PM

#10

No sleeping during the debate!!!

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 02:29PM

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Sir.Lancelot

12.24.2022 02:22PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Best.Korea

12.24.2022 09:57AM

"If Con thinks that unwanted penetration of body is fine, one must wonder what kind of a person Con is."

My best line so far.

Best.Korea

12.18.2022 04:35PM

You are confident, which is good. The world belongs to the confident. The confident always win when crossing the street.

Sir.Lancelot

12.18.2022 04:21PM

I'm pretty confident in my chances regardless of those factors.

Best.Korea

12.18.2022 03:54PM

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@Sir.Lancelot

It is expected that voters will vote for you, which will make you great and definitely more attractive to women. Plus, you have a greater chance of going to heaven if you win this debate. So things are looking good for you.

Sir.Lancelot

12.18.2022 03:48PM

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@Best.Korea

Easy for you to lose.

🤪

Best.Korea

12.18.2022 03:46PM

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@Sir.Lancelot

This debate will last for at least two months. But yes, it will be easy for me.

Sir.Lancelot

12.18.2022 03:16PM

This will be an easy victory.

RationalMadman

01.09.2023 04:31PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Only Con used sources.

Pro argues that vaccines involve unwanted penetration, however something neither debater explores is consensual vaccination. This actually gives the point to Pro, Con lazily and arrogantly gives up the following Rounds with barely any response to Pro, even intentionally sending a blank Round.

This is why conduct is given to Pro, it was intentional disrespect with Round 5 having direct abuse given to Pro in a mocking manner.

The problem for Pro is that Pro never explores how rape causes autism, that link is never made. Con only provides us with the fact that rape and vaccination are not defined the same, which proves very little as a dog and a cat are still both animals and have breeds within them. Definitions differing would mean one cannot call kung fu a striking art if anything in it is grappling nor could one compare it to Karate as the definitions differ. That does not remotely follow.

Pro wins the rape comparison since Con fails again and again to point out that vaccination can be consensual and often is.

Pro does not ever explain how rape or vaccination cause autism, this is a fundamental flaw and how Con ends up winning.

Barney

01.08.2023 10:15AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro does a good job showing logically valid forms, with wholly unsound conclusions (as con is quick to point out via reminding us the definitions don't connect).

Con would have done better with some more jokes, but as I did not find pro's jokes to be funny, even weighing this as comedy I'll end up favoring con.

AustinL0926

12.24.2022 06:49PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Arguments: The BoP was on PRO to show that vaccines cause autism. Even if his ludicrous argument that vaccination is rape was upheld, he still failed to prove that rape causes autism. CON correctly noted the BoP, which was all he needed to do.

Sources: CON used several sources for definitions, while PRO used none.

S/G: Acceptable from both sides.

Conduct: AFAIK, troll arguments are annoying, but not poor conduct.