Is God Real???
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After 4 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...
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- God
- The omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipresent being worshiped by those who strictly follow the Christian faith.
- Exist
- To have real being
- He created all the natural, complex phenomena's in the universe
- He has no explanation for himself
- Anything that creates the natural, complex phenomena in the universe is at least as complex as such phenomena
- God has no explanation for Himself
- Is at least as complex as the natural, complex phenomena in the universe
- Has no explanation for His existence
- Disease
- Animals in the wild suffer from diseases which circulate in a similar manner to human colds and flus, such as epizootic's, which are analogous to human epidemics. Some well-studied examples include chronic wasting disease in elk and deer, white-nose syndrome in bats, devil facial tumour disease in Tasmanian devils and Newcastle disease in birds. Diseases, combined with parasitism, "may induce listlessness, shivering, ulcers, pneumonia, starvation, violent behaviour, or other gruesome symptoms over the course of days or weeks leading up to death."
- Injury
- Consider interspecific competitions; a natural interaction in population ecology whereby members of the same species fight to the death for limited recourses. These interaction often lead to fractures, eye injuries, wing tears and self-amputations, all extremely painful injuries which further lead to behaviours which negatively affect the well-being of the injured animals.
- Parasitism
- Parasites can negatively affect the well-being of their hosts by redirecting their host's resources to themselves, destroying their host's tissue and increasing their host's susceptibility to predation. As a result, parasites may reduce the movement, reproduction and survival of their hosts. Parasites can alter the phenotype of their hosts; limb malformations in amphibians caused by ribeiroia ondatrae, is one example. Some parasites have the capacity to manipulate the cognitive function of their hosts, such as worms which make crickets kill themselves by directing them to drown themselves in water, so that the parasite can reproduce in an aquatic environment, as well as caterpillars using dopamine containing secretions to manipulating ants to acts as bodyguards to protect the caterpillar from parasites.
this was a bad argument
The workings of human consciousness are similarly miraculous. Like the laws of mathematics, consciousness has no physical presence in the world; the images and thoughts in our consciousness have no measurable dimensions.
THBT: The God of the Christian bible does not exist.
being self contradictory here
After death, you continue to exist as the difference you have made in this world. The people whose lives you touched, whose paths you’ve helped guide, and whose minds you’ve changed, carry a bit of you with them.This doesn't support my argument, and I know you're going to call it out, but I like to think God made it that way. It's a good thought.
I will be quitting this debate on the front that I am a Christian, and therefore biased. I will pick topics more wisely in the future.
Implicit concession.
Conceded by Pro
Concession
Argument - Whilst I disagree with Pros reasoning for quitting the debate, Pro did indeed quit the debate and made absolutely nor rebuttals nor arguments in two rounds and appears to have offered the equivalent of a concession, and writes: "I apologize for Forfeiting the 2nd round, as it is exam season. I will be quitting this debate on the front that I am a Christian, and therefore biased. I will pick topics more wisely in the future.". This is clearly a loss of argument. And even in the instance that an argument justification is still required to warrant a victory for Con, I feel it was "absolutely imperative" that Pro answer this question here " Before I even begin unpacking this section, I urge you to note that using the bible as a source without proving it's credibility is a disastrous move to make. How do you know the the bible isn't just some imaginative guys journal? How do you know it is actually Gods word? What makes it a credible source?", and completely failed to do so with his forfeiture and apparent concession- Con
Sources - I have already included Cons argument regarding using the bible as a source in my justification for awarding him with the argument points, and therefore I feel I must factor in that Pro used a good few other sources which were non biblical and not challenged by Pro. Con himself produced sources which went unchallenged - Tie
S&G - Nothing stood out from either participant - Tie
Conduct - A concession is extremely honest and gracious and I feel should be rewarded with a thank you - Pro
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Thanks for a good conversation, you’ve really grown as a debater.