Instigator / Con

gugigor

1499

rating

debates

35.58%

won

Topic

#2974

Pro Should Give Up This Debate

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 4 votes and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman

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Publication date: 04.01.2021 02:21PM
Last updated date: 05.04.2021 04:37AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 4
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 5,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Pro

RationalMadman

1702

rating

574

debates

67.86%

won

Description

You know the rules. You wouldn't get this from any other guy.

Round 1

gugigor

04.02.2021 12:49AM

Con

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YddwkMJG1Jo

RationalMadman

04.02.2021 01:16AM

Pro

Pro should give up this debate because it's unrated.

Pro refuses to do what he should because he's an arrogant fool.

Round 2

gugigor

04.02.2021 01:44AM

Con

You know the rules and so do I.

Also you lost the game.

RationalMadman

04.04.2021 01:41AM

Pro

What rules? Wtf?

Round 3

gugigor

04.04.2021 03:48AM

Con

happy late April Fools

RationalMadman

04.04.2021 03:58AM

Pro

Pro refuses to do what he should, thus justifying the resolution being true and his refusal to do so.

Con has failed to assert why 'should' equates to 'shall' or 'will'.

Round 4

gugigor

04.04.2021 04:26AM

Con

As pro has not given up this debate despite its absurdity, he clearly agrees with Con. Vote for me.

RationalMadman

04.04.2021 04:37AM

Pro

As Con has not established a justifiable link between 'should' and 'shall' or 'will', Pro wins this debate.

Barney

04.20.2021 12:48PM

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@fauxlaw

I don't even look at if debates are rated or not. However, if you want to revise your vote, just say the word and I'll pull the current one down.

fauxlaw

04.20.2021 04:17AM

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@Barney

>>RM, you're right, of course. I am too used to Con not being the initiator, and was doubly thrown by your personal reference in a third -person syntax. I'll ask Ragnar if I can revise the vote. It may not be necessary, but I'll watch for about a week. Ragnar, please take note. Being an unrated debate, does that ever figure in to making voting correction?

RationalMadman

04.19.2021 10:54PM

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@fauxlaw

I called myself an arrogant fool.

RationalMadman

04.18.2021 11:54AM

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@Intelligence_06

Thank you for this vote btw, you saved me from an unfair loss.

RationalMadman

04.11.2021 06:56AM

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@Barney

You are really a troll sometimes

Barney

04.11.2021 04:34AM

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@RationalMadman

To me this really seems like a comedic riddle debate, therefore not moderated.

https://info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy#non-moderated-debates

RationalMadman

04.04.2021 09:11AM

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@Barney

@MisterChris

There is no way that theweakeredge's vote is valid RFD

Barney

04.04.2021 02:17AM

That pro never will, is not indicative of what he should do.

Intelligence_06

04.04.2021 02:04AM

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@gugigor

You have 5000 characters, not 500.

I have literally won you on this topic as Con. You literally have free arguments.

TheUnderdog

04.20.2021 04:48PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

This debate is funny, but stupid. Neither side deserves an advantage. I hope a mod doesn't report my vote because I get scared of them reporting my votes.

fauxlaw

04.19.2021 10:40PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Argument" The entertainment value of Rick Astley's song, notwithstanding, which Con [Instigator] presents in R1, I see little. but nevertheless vague association with the debate Resolution other than that both concerning ending something obviously in progress. But this argument says nothing defeating Con's rebuttal, in R3, of Con's "should" [to wit: give up the debate] equating to "shall or will." Further, Pro discontinues argument after R1, declaring in R2 a quote from the song, which amounts to a repeat of R1 argument and not new argument, then declaring [with conduct-destroying contempt] that pro lost the "game," clearly meaning the debate. R4; Con's oblique reference to April fools accomplishes nothing, and R4 declares, obliquely, again that Pro has lost by virtue of Pro agreeing with Con, which is a baseless charge given Pro's successful R1 through R4 rebuttals. points to Pro.

Sources: Pro offers the only source, but it does not support Con's "argument"[?], which this voter concludes is worse than no source. Tie, at best.

Legibility: acceptable. Tie.

Conduct: I declare Con's win declaration in R1 to be a conduct killer. However, it is matched to Pro's over-the-top accusation of Con being "an arrogant fool" in R1. Tie.

Intelligence_06

04.04.2021 09:35AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Argument: Pro has a reason(This debate wasn't worth going for), all Con has was implicit meme material. To Pro.

Sources: None.

S&g: In Round 3, Con failed to capitalize the first letter of the argument. To Pro.

Conduct: No forfeits, but Con didn't take it seriously, as he posted something not even tangibly related to the topic itself in R3. His entire case is built upon implicit things and I can't make sense of it whatsoever, to Pro.

Theweakeredge

04.04.2021 08:44AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro didn't give up on Con - he knew the rules and so do I
-So the argument goes to Con