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Jasmine

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Topic

#2741

I Cut My Hair

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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Better arguments

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Better legibility

Better conduct

After 3 votes and with 8 points ahead, the winner is...

Jasmine

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Publication date: 01.15.2021 03:00AM
Last updated date: 02.19.2021 07:04AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 1,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

zedvictor4

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Description

I: First person pronoun. I am referring to myself, and only me. This subject is about me.

Cut: Shorting of the hair.

Hair: Any of the fine threadlike strands growing from the skin of humans, mammals, and some other animals. (The hair that grows out of my scalp.)

Round 1

Jasmine

01.17.2021 12:46AM

Pro

https://jasmine17123.blogspot.com/2021/01/me-cut-her-hair.html

zedvictor4

01.17.2021 06:52AM

Con

I prefer the Hendrix look.

New Hairdo. An allegory by Zedvictor 4

I see you've cut your hair my dear

I can see your face from ear to ear.

I also see that down below

You have also had a go

And legs and pits and back and tum.

And a waxing up the bum.

At 85 your feline grace

Is sagging and drooping all over the place

So why the need for this svelte version

When I preferred a fluffy Persian

Anyway it looks kind of weird

Because you haven't shaved off your beard.

And what's the price we've had to pay

So that you can look this way

Razors and strips and scissors and all

Strewn about the bathroom floor

The shower's blocked the bin is stacked

And now you are completely knacked.

So why the need to look much barer

Perhaps it is the new carer.

A memory, a yearn, a tingle

Back to the days when you were single

A hope that passion once again flickers

When he has to change your knickers.

Interesting biblical hypothesis by the way.

Round 2

Jasmine

01.17.2021 07:12PM

Pro

Thank you for that excellent poem. I didn't know my beard was that noticeable though. 😰

zedvictor4

01.18.2021 07:46AM

Con

Yes hair.

Therein lies an evolved dysfunction of opportunities.

And doesn't Kris Jenner look fabulous with volume heavy hair....Notwithstanding the plasterers trowel and the hypodermicists creativity.

Yet Jasmine's hair

Was there

Though youthful dalliance is not an abeyance, but signals a predestined step into the future....Under square shades.

And expectation

Demands conformity

To the marketeers delights of wonder and super-human opportunities presented wealth and immortality.

And time

Precious time

Oozes the bowl the mirror the store the product the stylist the morning the evening, every waking hour and dreams.

To fit

In to

A system that demands conformity of aspiration lacking aspiration to be her the goddess of fakery and illusion.

And child

Lost to

The early death throws of function, telomeric erosion and ever demanding strife enduring fecundity preordained.

And so

Kris Jenner

And Jasmine....The Sun will engulf the world and all Earth's energy will be dissipated no more

Hair gone.

Round 3

Jasmine

01.18.2021 05:50PM

Pro

I'm going to be honest, I don't understand a word of what you've just said. But I do enjoy the comparison of me and Kris Jenner.

zedvictor4

01.18.2021 09:44PM

Con

Jasmine....Shall I compare thee to a summers day.

And Kris....Shall I compare thee to the bleak depths of grey winter.

Compare not the Damsel Fly with the Toad.....Nor the Gazelle with the Warthog.

For tis an unfair comparison.

The mask of decay doth not compare well with the beauty of youthfulness.

For money doth not yet buy immortality, it merely hideth the mortal truth.

__________________

What an amazing juxtaposition and contradiction is hair.

I do want it here, but I don't want it there.

Sang Humpty Dumpty carelessly.

____________________

Rapunzel

Let down your hair.

Fortunately

There were no scissors there.

_____________________

And so Jasmine?

Hair today...Gone tomorrow.

Round 4

Jasmine

01.19.2021 05:11AM

Pro

I looked at the back of my head. And oh my god, it looks terrible! I will never go outside again. 😭

zedvictor4

01.19.2021 08:05AM

Con

Sounds like an out of body experience

Or a dream

Or mirror trickery

So a hat

Will cover that

Beanie

Stripy

Spotty

Rainbow

Cool

But unless you walk backwards

People

Won't see

Unless

You say

Though they

Too busy anyway

To look up

From device

Induced coma

Swish swish

Tap tap

SO DO YOU LIKE MY HAT?

Sorry

Never noticed

And hair

Yeah

Cool too

Have you cut it?

Swish swish

Tap tap

I used to look like Hendrix

Who?

Swish swish

Tap tap

Yeah

Cool

Bandana

Mean guitar

Left hand

Cool hat Jasmine

Yeah

I just said

Sorry

Wasn't concentrating

Your hair's different

Bleep

Swish swish

Tap tap

Bleep swish swish tap tap

Heads down

And only

Bob

Sees.

But

Depending upon your latitude

Might

Determine

Which hat

You choose

Miss Jasmine

Oh such a lovely bonnet

Adorned

With ribbons

And flowers

Upon it

And Miss Jasmine out a courting

New hair cut

And hat

A sporting

Those were

The days

B.H.

Before Hendrix

And so the hiding strategy

You see

Is not

Necessary

Because

The back

Of your

Head's

Invisible

Only you

Know it's there

So do not

Despair

Jasmine.

Round 5

Jasmine

01.20.2021 01:02AM

Pro

https://jasmine17123.blogspot.com/2021/01/me-cut-her-hair.html

Great poems.

zedvictor4

01.20.2021 07:04AM

Con

#10

The opening verse of Purple Haze.....By Jimi Hendrix

Purple haze all in my brain

Lately, things just don't seem the same

Acting funny, but I don't know why

Excuse me while I kiss the sky.

____________________________

Zed uni-verse

Curly hair on top your head

So having this debate with Zed

Cut it short but you don't know why

Does it make you wanna laugh or cry

____________________________

And Bob said..... Let there be light

And it shone upon the wonders of the Earth

And then he made people in his own image

But people were not content with Bob's creation

And Bob was sad and cried tears upon the Earth

But humankind were ingenious, for they were the sons and daughters of Bob.

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And so 'twill be, that Jasmines hair will grow plentifully

And shall become a life's burden, stacked amongst the heavy baggage of social expectation.

And happiness will be short as the hair has become short

For tomorrow will be another unsatisfactory hair day.

Snip snip

Snip snip.

Bye Bye Jasmine.

Jasmine

02.03.2021 10:28PM

#16

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@Intelligence_06

It is now, hoe.

zedvictor4

01.28.2021 07:13AM

#15

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@Intelligence_06

Hey...It's not a big deal.

Jasmine cut her hair.

The poetry was fun.

The debate was never going to be

A serious one.

Thanks for taking the time to vote.

Intelligence_06

01.27.2021 09:58AM

#14

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@fauxlaw

How does Con get get the args? You were the guy who voted against me because i have made an argument a bit off the track, and now you are voting args upon someone who literally conceded?

Intelligence_06

01.27.2021 09:49AM

#13

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@zedvictor4

Well it is not her profile picture, so we can never confirm that it is her.

zedvictor4

01.27.2021 06:55AM

#12

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@Intelligence_06

If you click on Jasmine's link

You will see before and after

I think.

zedvictor4

01.27.2021 06:52AM

#11

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@fauxlaw

Nice.

fauxlaw

01.26.2021 06:11PM

#10

Joe’s Hair

Jill asks me why I’m such a hairy guy,
I’m hairy night and day, enough for you to buy,
I’m hairy high and low; don’t ask; don’t know
Just stroke it smooth, t’will rise and show…
So, Darlin', give me head with hair,
Such long, beautiful hair,
Shining, gleaming, sniffing, flaxen, wax on,
Turn on, give me hair down to there
Hair that thrills when you stare,
Hair, baby, hair, momma, hair wherever,
Hair----
Show it, but don’t mow it, God, can I grow it!
Flies in the breeze, tangles in the trees,
Give a home to the fleas, a hive for the bees,
A nest for the birds, don’t they love my sniffing yours,
There ain’t no words for the wonders of coiffeurs,
Legs, hairy, pits, hairy, everywhere I’m hairy, Harry.
Hair…

zedvictor4

01.17.2021 03:52PM

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@Intelligence_06

It's an allegory about modern expectations.

Intelligence_06

01.17.2021 08:17AM

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@zedvictor4

What are you trying to make?

Intelligence_06

01.17.2021 02:18AM

Alright, alright, this is truism, unless...??

zedvictor4

01.16.2021 09:11AM

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@Jasmine

I can handle a 1000 characters.

Intelligence_06

01.16.2021 03:42AM

So can I interpret the resolution as “On balance, the user known as Jasmine, will cut her hair at least once in her life”?

Wagyu

01.16.2021 01:45AM

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@Jasmine

Or you can change the resolution to "I chose to cut my hair" and change the word limit to 20 000 and you'll have an opponent.

Safalcon7

01.15.2021 05:26PM

define those terms intelligence_06 asked for. I'll be up for it

Intelligence_06

01.15.2021 07:02AM

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@Jasmine

Define “I”, “cut”, and “hair”.

Wagyu

01.15.2021 05:10AM

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@Jasmine

Change it to "I, with 100 percent certainty, cut my hair" and raise the word limit to 10 000 and you've got an opponent.

RationalMadman

01.28.2021 07:35AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

I have very little idea what I genuinely just read.

I cannot grasp almost any of the poetry by Con but there is actual argumentation in it that at times is coherent:

"
I see you've cut your hair my dear

I can see your face from ear to ear.
"

Then there is sexual intonation to the waxing of stuff that I don't really want to go into. I literally don't understand this debate.

Con argued that Pro did cut her hair, Pro didn't argue and just gave proof that a woman she claims to be her has had her hair cut without even explaining what's inside the link.

What?

Intelligence_06

01.27.2021 03:38AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Args: It is to Pro. Pro has essentially given a source which proves that she had cut her hair(To Con: You missed an opportunity in which since Pro had never used a photo for a profile before, it is essentially impossible to prove that the person that had her hair cut is Pro). Con ADMITS Pro has cut her hair in his poems, while making no arguments. A foregone conclusion and concession.

Sources: Pro used sources, Con didn't.

S&G: Both persons spelled correctly and everything is readable. Tie.

Conduct: Technically Con had went great lengths admitting that Pro has cut her hair and wrote poems unrelated to his standpoint. This shows that Con doesn't even care about winning this debate. To Pro.

fauxlaw

01.26.2021 06:23PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

As this "debate" is a bit tongue-in-cheeky, I will offer first, in comments, my #10 as a thematic intercession of my composition. And now, the vote, just as cheeky, but with a bit of serious banter:

Argument: Sorry, Jasmine, but the creativity Zed displays is too good to be overwhelmed by a few words from you which were, after all, complementary to Zed. The poetry, Zed, as argument, is superb. points to Con.

Sourcing: Well, pro's sourcing was limited to to references to the same blog post, which did, I'll admit, graphically present the proof of the debate resolution: Jasmine did, indeed, cut her hair. As that was the point of Pro's argument, I'd have to say, in spite of Zed's clever use of sourcing material for his argument, a no-brainer. Pro wins these points.

S&G: a tie. Pro's graphics demonstrate as graphic grammar just as much left on the floor as Con's many strands of poetic grammar, and both spelled eloquently.

Conduct: A difficult choice. I, too, agreeing with Con, think pro's "before" was preferable to her "after," but I must admit bias toward more hair than less. However, Con's beginning stanza of R1 was a clever, if suggestive tilt toward "down there" a but further than pro's rebuttal suggests. Have to call this one a tie.

Conclusion: Zed wins by a hair.