Instigator / Pro

Type1

1266

rating

119

debates

15.97%

won

Topic

#193

Right Wingers Are Lying, Bigotted Halfwits

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 3 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman

Tags

Society

Parameters

Publication date: 10.18.2018 03:53AM
Last updated date: 11.07.2018 01:20PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 30,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

RationalMadman

1702

rating

574

debates

67.86%

won

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Round 1

Type1

10.19.2018 05:14AM

Pro

According to statistics, 89% of right wingers are literally Hitler. Little did you know, the Nazis developed top secret mind control technology. It started when Nazi scientists began contemplating "how many lies can we fit in one human brain? And are Aryans capable of holding more lies than the Jew?"

To make a long story short, they developed the technology to transmit lies directly into the brain, this could be used both to deceive and give one the means of deception. One day, Hitler volunteered to have all the lies in his own mind transmitted into an American soldier the Nazis captured. They intended to program him to fight for the reich, but something went terribly wrong. He immediately gained the same exact capacity for brobdingnagian levels of dishonesty and white supremacy as Hitler himself. After the war he returned to America, had many Nazi babies...and thus, the modern American conservative was born....

RationalMadman

10.22.2018 03:15AM

Con

The statistic is a lie or has to be proven. "Literally Hitler" is misusing the term 'literally' and ignores the Jews, disabled and homosexuals who are right-wing who cannot possible be Nazis unless they want to end their own kind.

Then, we must see evidence of the 'halfwits' that isn't subjective (because if it's subjective it could be you being a halfwit and not comprehending their ingenuity or something else entirely where you're just wrong anyway) and we must see evidence of the bigotry being right-wing as opposed to some right-wingers being bigoted out of all of them.

Round 2

Type1

10.25.2018 03:15AM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

10.28.2018 02:16AM

Con

Be wise and yet stupidly courageous in spite of it at times, this life isn't for a coward not for a fool.

Round 3

Type1

10.31.2018 02:16AM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

10.31.2018 01:20PM

Con

Pro has failed to meet BoP

bsh1

11.02.2018 10:11PM

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@Ramshutu

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>Reported Vote: Ramshutu // Mod action: Not Removed

>Points Awarded: 4 points to Con for arguments and conduct

>Reason for Decision: Conduct to con for forfeit.
Pros opening post contained no argument; but a series of absurd claims that I believe were either trolling or a failed attempt at comedy cons response was short and to the point, but basically pointed this out, and specifically that pro offered no evidence. Default BOP was not met by pro, so con wins on arguments.

>Reason for Mod Action: This debate is a full forfeit. FF debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the conceding side. This did not occur, so this vote is not actionable.
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bsh1

11.02.2018 10:09PM

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@ArgentTongue

Whoops!

This is a full-forfeit debate; I should not have removed your vote. Feel free to re-vote using your old RFD, which you can find below in the removal notice. Apologies.

bsh1

11.02.2018 10:06PM

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@ArgentTongue

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>Reported Vote: Argent_Tongue // Mod action: Removed

>Points Awarded: 4 points to Con for arguments and conduct

>Reason for Decision: Pro failed to meet the BoP. Because of this, argument points awarded to Con. Sources are irrelevant, and therefore a tie. Spelling and grammar were also comparable in stature, and also resulted in a tie. Con maintained his obligation and honored his commitment to the debate. Therefore, conduct and etiquette points were awarded to Con.

>Reason for Mod Action: The voter fails to survey the main arguments and fails to weigh those arguments to reach a decision. To cast a sufficient vote, the voter should explain *why* and *how* Pro met their BOP by surveying and weighing the main arguments.
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Earth

11.04.2018 11:26PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

FF, and Type1's R1 was trollish and had little in evidence.

Ramshutu

10.31.2018 07:11PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Conduct to con for forfeit.

Pros opening post contained no argument; but a series of absurd claims that I believe were either trolling or a failed attempt at comedy cons response was short and to the point, but basically pointed this out, and specifically that pro offered no evidence. Default BOP was not met by pro, so con wins on arguments.

Barney

10.31.2018 03:45PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Conduct for forfeiture.
Arguments chiefly for not labeling this a humor debate (and within that, failing the bring the laughs).

Pro presented the idea that every American right winger today was fathered (and grandfathered etc.) by exactly one WWII POW (wow that guy must have slept around more than Genghis Khan)... While con chose ignore this, his arguments about the Jews hints at the key problem to such a claim of genetic inheritance. Really pro's arguments boil down to racism as we know it to be a genetic trait, to which the infected must logically be purged so that only the new ubermensch remain (sadly, it's hard to tell if he's just trying to be funny, given the number of people who believe things like black's are too genetically superior to be capable of racism).

Con's counter argument focused on how to literally use the English language, and pro's half-witted failings in that department.

At the end of it, unless pro is a right winger, he has not proven anything about even one of their number, let alone the average member.